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In fact, the serial dilution is so great in something like a Bach flower remedy that it is unlikely that a single molecule of the 'active' compound exists in the final aliquot.

Reply 41

username612415

Original post by Mvine001

Homeopathy has worked for me. It's very well diluted poison mixed with herbs. You have your opinions, and I have mine. In my opinion, it works.

Fortunately science doesn't care about opinion. You're more than welcome to believe whatever you like, but that doesn't change the fact that there is absolutely zero rational basis for homeopathy.

Reply 42

Nunchuck-master-2334

Who's to say that scientists haven't been investigating homeopathy? I suppose you think that just because you don't think homeopathy works, nobody else should think different. I go against your logic if you do! > :frown:

Reply 43

username612415

Original post by Mvine001

Who's to say that scientists haven't been investigating homeopathy?

I literally linked you to two different studies performed in the last several years alone...

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Reply 44

Nunchuck-master-2334

Explain, Mr Smarty-pants.

Reply 45

username612415

Original post by Mvine001

Explain, Mr Smarty-pants.

Mature.

I linked you to two of the more extensive, higher profile studies published within the last decade (one as recently as last year) that conclusively found "homeopathic remedies perform no better than placebos, and that the principles on which homeopathy is based are "scientifically implausible"".

Reply 46

dingleberry jam

Original post by Mvine001

It's very well diluted poison mixed with herbs.

Diluted? Isn't it water memory that works the magic?

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Reply 47

dingleberry jam

Original post by unprinted

The basic answer is that it has some powerful friends - it's one of the things Prince Charles is a fan of and at least one Tory minister.

Noticed a few Tories on here that will normally attempt to defend it, they generally seem quite rational otherwise, very odd.

Reply 48

Nunchuck-master-2334

Original post by dingleberry jam

Diluted? Isn't it water memory that works the magic?

Not really.

Reply 49

Reality Check

hundreds of years of advancement of medical science and there's still people who think 'water memory' exists...

Reply 50

Good bloke

Original post by Mvine001

Who's to say that scientists haven't been investigating homeopathy?

Scientists have carried out countless investigations into homeopathy. There is no evidence that it is any more effective than a placebo.

Reply 51

Nunchuck-master-2334

I'm fighting a battle I'll never win. Is there anybody who trusts homeopathy, even if it's a little bit?

Reply 52

chazwomaq

Original post by Mvine001

I'm fighting a battle I'll never win.

Maybe time to concede defeat then.

Reply 53

Good bloke

Original post by Mvine001

I'm fighting a battle I'll never win. Is there anybody who trusts homeopathy, even if it's a little bit?

We all understand there is such a thing as the placebo effect, which can be beneficial, and the cause of which we don't understand. Homeopathy itself can do no better than that, so you might as well dispense sugar pills, coloured water or pray. Its practitioners' pseudo-scientific claims have no credibility and are pure charlatanism.

Reply 54

username612415

Original post by Mvine001

I'm fighting a battle I'll never win.

Maybe that's a sign of something.

Seriously, this isn't just angsty "look how clever I am on the internet" stuff. Homeopathy is literally on the same scale of discredited, conspiracy theory grade stuff as flat earth theory, creationism, and holocaust denial. It's virtually universally rejected by relevant qualified scientists, built on principles that lie in direct contradiction to established scientific principles, and defended by arguments of mysticism or establishment coverups. If anything homeopathy is worse- it's all well and good people treating their sniffles with what is essentially herbal squash, but people denying themselves or (worse) people dependent on them effective medical treatment in the case of more severe conditions is a very dangerous thing.

You don't even need to make scientific arguments to reinforce this point, it's possibly even easier to illustrate from a financial standpoint. Think about it- if the pharmaceutical industry could create effective medications with dosages that are literally millions of times smaller than what they currently use, making them ludicrously more profitable, they would all be doing it. If there's one thing a multibillion dollar industry likes, it's making more billions.

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Reply 55

Good bloke

Original post by Mvine001

It's very well diluted poison mixed with herbs.

This is what natural remies and herbs can do to you: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-37572771

Reply 56

Failingstudent98

Original post by Mvine001

Homeopathy has worked for me. It's very well diluted poison mixed with herbs. You have your opinions, and I have mine. In my opinion, it works.

personal opinions and proven science are a little different

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Reply 57

Failingstudent98

Original post by Mvine001

I'm fighting a battle I'll never win. Is there anybody who trusts homeopathy, even if it's a little bit?

It has been proven it doesn't work- it's not a matter of trusting homeopathy, YOU can trust it but it still doesn't work

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Reply 58

champ_mc99

Original post by Mvine001

I have had homeopathy done for 15 years. It has stopped my asthma, flu, it's sorted out my emotions about things and more. This is more than proof. It's evidence. I know what I'm talking about. Don't try and say that I'm making this up, because I'm not.

Flus come and go. It may not be the pills not doing anything but just your own natural immume system.

Your emotions are sorted due to the placaebo effect.

Stopped asthma? Asthma sometimes becomes dormant after a while in a lot of people.

It's not evidence. Sorry. :/