Are brexiters starting to think this is all Conservative fault?

> Why did we need immigrants? We have huge skill shortage.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30224320

> Why has recovery been slow? ^ Read article ... Its due to skill shortage (none of this was here when Labour was in)

> Why did we grow fast pre-WW2? We was behind other major countries growth though, but due to booming growth from Eurpean regions and world wide we benefited from globalisation and boomed with them but with lower growth compared to them.
http://www.economicshelp.org/blog/11697/debt/post-war-boom/

> Why are wages not growing?
"the decline of labour unions, the fall in the minimum wage adjusted for inflation, the increased concentration in a lot of industries, the increased number of super-successful companies"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35709058

If EU referendum was more truthful, do you think remain or leave would of won?
If NHS wasn't underfunded , would we of voted remain instead of leave? More migrants = higher GDP growth = more money for NHS to deal with pressure.

Now Prime Minister is in favour for hard brexit, taking us out of it all, meaning more public spending cuts, lower wages and poorer. Who got a gut feeling we'll end up rejoining and by rejoining we'll...

Join...

> EU Army
> Euro currency
> Schengen zone
> Central European Bank
> Intergrating potential superpower United States of Europe (not all negative)

Basically both sides lied and not told the truth, and now we all screwed, even if we rejoin we'll never as rich/powerful as we was. Conservatives basically made a solid foundation of it by making NHS fail by underfunding.

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Reply 1

Maker

Economic problems affect Leavers more than Remainers so I am good with that.

Reply 2

Naveed.178

The truth is that we need to do a hard Brexit.
The EU is not a good place to be as their political leaders are intolerent and very controlling. I think the Conservatives should continue to do their work on getting us out as quickly as possible in 2 years, and arrange new trade deals.
If Conservatives do this, I really do believe and guarantee that in 3+ years time, this country will be magnificently improving and booming with much increased economy.

(edited 7 years ago)

Reply 3

ckfeister

Original post by Maker

Economic problems affect Leavers more than Remainers so I am good with that.

There won't be huge amount of economic problems in long run, only short term and the things I want to do and salary will barely be affected.

Reply 4

Maker

Original post by ckfeister

There won't be huge amount of economic problems in long run, only short term and the things I want to do and salary will barely be affected.

You must have a decent crystal ball to be this certain of the future.

yes

Nope. It's not anyone's "fault" because that would imply it's the wrong answer. They asked us, we answered. My only problem now is how little the politicians seem to care about what we voted for. That covers all parties.

Reply 7

AccountingBabe

No, definitely not the conservatives' fault.

The problems we have today are a result of decisions made 10+ years ago. Which were made by labour.

Thankfully Brexit is looking to reverse these mistakes.

Reply 8

scrotgrot

Original post by ckfeister

Skills shortage is just business speak for we are too tight topay the salaries skilled people want for their time.

Now Prime Minister is in favour for hard brexit, taking us out of it all, meaning more public spending cuts, lower wages and poorer. Who got a gut feeling we'll end up rejoining and by rejoining we'll...

Join...

> EU Army
> Euro currency
> Schengen zone
> Central European Bank
> Intergrating potential superpower United States of Europe (not all negative)

Basically both sides lied and not told the truth, and now we all screwed, even if we rejoin we'll never as rich/powerful as we was. Conservatives basically made a solid foundation of it by making NHS fail by underfunding.

Duh, this is why I voted remain, being fully in the EU as we'd be if we rejoined would be as bad as being fully out.

Reply 9

ckfeister

Original post by Maker

You must have a decent crystal ball to be this certain of the future.

Teachers are barely affected by recessions, teachers salaries have increased above inflation unlike private sector. I'm then going to do my own business later on with an idea never been done (yet) so I'm sure I'm not affected.

Reply 10

Maker

Original post by ckfeister

Teachers are affected by inflation like everyone else. Teachers' salaries will be affected by lower government income as the economy slows down and inflation due to higher fuel, food and other imported goods prices.

Reply 11

Plagioclase

Original post by Naveed-7

The EU is not a good place to be as their political leaders are intolerent and very controlling.

I hope the dramatic irony of this statement is not lost on you.

Reply 12

ckfeister

Original post by Maker

Actually go and look up teachers salary in 2009, put in inflation calculator and see todays version. Teachers are also in shortage, they already have high pressure to increase. We'll see if we even have hard brexit yet.

Reply 13

Naveed.178

Original post by Plagioclase

I hope the dramatic irony of this statement is not lost on you.

What is so ironic about my statement? Explain further.

Reply 14

Maker

Original post by Naveed-7

What is so ironic about my statement? Explain further.

LOL

Reply 15

Maker

Original post by ckfeister

The only shortage is in the sciences and maths, there are plenty of teachers in other subjects so only the former gets incentives to train.

Reply 16

Naveed.178

In my post above, I said "The EU is not a good place to be as their political leaders are intolerent and very controlling". I was right.

I was right on my statement. The EU political leaders have an agenda and a goal with their Union state. No matter how many years a country has paid them and has been friends with them. If that country leaves, they shut the doors on you.

Source: http://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/companies/brussels-slams-the-door-on-uk-companies/ar-BBxbi8n?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout

Very intolerant and controlling indeed. Not a nice way to treat a country that has been trading and paying large fees to them for 40+ years.
We can prosper and survive without them. Australia Trade Deals, India, China, Japan, etc trade deals, Here we come!

(edited 7 years ago)

Reply 17

ckfeister

Original post by Maker

The only shortage is in the sciences and maths, there are plenty of teachers in other subjects so only the former gets incentives to train.

I want to teach Maths.

Reply 18

viffer

Original post by ckfeister

> Why did we need immigrants? We have huge skill shortage.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30224320

> Why has recovery been slow? ^ Read article ... Its due to skill shortage (none of this was here when Labour was in)

> Why did we grow fast pre-WW2? We was behind other major countries growth though, but due to booming growth from Eurpean regions and world wide we benefited from globalisation and boomed with them but with lower growth compared to them.
http://www.economicshelp.org/blog/11697/debt/post-war-boom/

> Why are wages not growing?
"the decline of labour unions, the fall in the minimum wage adjusted for inflation, the increased concentration in a lot of industries, the increased number of super-successful companies"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35709058

If EU referendum was more truthful, do you think remain or leave would of won?
If NHS wasn't underfunded , would we of voted remain instead of leave? More migrants = higher GDP growth = more money for NHS to deal with pressure.

Now Prime Minister is in favour for hard brexit, taking us out of it all, meaning more public spending cuts, lower wages and poorer. Who got a gut feeling we'll end up rejoining and by rejoining we'll...

Join...

> EU Army
> Euro currency
> Schengen zone
> Central European Bank
> Intergrating potential superpower United States of Europe (not all negative)
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Basically both sides lied and not told the truth, and now we all screwed, even if we rejoin we'll never as rich/powerful as we was. Conservatives basically made a solid foundation of it by making NHS fail by underfunding.

Don't agree with your assessment anyway and it loses marks for "would of" and "as we was". Not good enough from someone who wants to be a teacher.