Official Law Offer 2017

I just got an unconditional offer from QMUL 5 minutes ago!

When did you send off your UCAS?

Reading all the posts about LNAT are so worrying, I have mine in like an hour and now I'm scared to mess up

Y-You're doing your LNAT at 3 in the morning?

But that's not true though.

Hi Risobelle! I'm from Malaysia. Thanks for the heads up I took Chemistry, Physics, Maths and Econs . I'm quite worried of my LNAT apparently as I didn't score well in my MCQ practice....

Thanks Risobelle for the input. I visited the U.K in the summer and had an opportunity to do a self-guided tour of the University of Liverpool. Liked the university and the city! Liverpool and Sheffield are my top two choices.
Enala

Except for where they do. Bristol, for example: 15% weighting is towards the personal statement. Yes, the LNAT carries 25% weighting, but that's still 75% of other things to consider that aren't the LNAT.

They're not mutually exclusive. Poor wording.

Again, smells like BS. What would be the point in making you do an essay that didn't count for anything? The point of the essay is for individual Universities to see your writing style. It also filters out people who may have just guessed in the MC section and got lucky. The essay absolutely counts - maybe not towards your score, but certainly towards the decision of the Uni you apply to.


Nottingham better than Bristol? Hahaha, okay. This would make more sense if you compared say, LSE to Oxford, but Bristol is better than Nottingham, if anything the difference is marginal enough that people who did try for Nottingham over Bristol in Adjustment would do so for reasons other than "it's a better uni". Which it's not.

Almost everything you said is hearsay. And nobody has said that LOADS of people get into LNAT unis with a lower score; saying it may be true but that there should only be a few cases is precisely true.

Update: I have substituted UCL for Birmingham

I just got an unconditional offer from QMUL 5 minutes ago!

I did practice and I feel it made a big difference to how I performed in the multiple choice section. But I don't think any more practice would have made much difference.

precisely what i told u. your case is special cos you already have achieved grades. even if you did badly for the LNAT, your LNAT choices might very well take you in.

so you need to look at emerging markets which welcomes foreigners into their countries to do legal work such as Hong Kong, Brunei, Singapore. These countries have only heard of oxbridge, the 5 london unis, nottingham and warwick. so you have to play it safe.

I did not have to compose this post but I want to because this forum has helped me a lot albeit only a handful of forum members (i'm thinking 4 or 5 people? )

I scored 18 in my first LNAT, LSE rejected me, I called them up, the person said sorry to me and to apply elsewhere so I took a gap year and scored 35 for my second LNAT.

You don't have to believe me. But i repeat this again for those who are unaware of this but are willing to hear me out and then do their own research before deciding if i'm speaking sense or not.

Personal statements don't matter one bit if you're applying to LNAT unis. If you score below a certain score which the LNAT uni has agreed by itself within its department to be the minimum mark for that application year then all applicants that have scored below that mark will be automatically rejected. You will be notified of that rejection via the personal portal (separate from UCAS) which all LNAT unis will create for you, provide the user ID and password to you for you to log in. It is in this portal where you can ask the tutor questions, they will reply to you or send them PDF copies of your results etc. Do a simple search on this forum and you will see so many who score 10, 11, 13, 15 etc for the LNAT and the LNAT unis rejected them outright. We will never ever know what the cut-off mark for the LNAT for that year is for a particular uni unless a Freedom of Information request is made.

Look at this link below. UCL first said that there is no benchmark score for the LNAT but then further down it says 'The average LNAT score for offer holders for 2014-15 was 27 (to the nearest whole number). For 2015-16 it was 28 (to the nearest whole number).
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/lnat_statistics_3

Admission tutors may say publicly that the entire LNAT and the personal statement is looked at as a whole. But i was told on good authority by those who know that the essay component of the LNAT doesn't count for anything. It's only the LNAT MCQ that matters. The function of the LNAT is to filter those who cannot think logically from those who can, under timed exam conditions. Although I disagree with this thinking behind the unis that have adopted the LNAT, it's their decision and you have to abide by it. If you had bothered to do a simple search on this forum, you will see many students from the past as far back as 2011 who have shared their horrible experiences such as computer malfunction, noisy candidates in the room, failure to prepare for the LNAT MCQ and so much more. All of them were rejected by the LNAT unis and they had to settle for the Russell Group unis.

Anyways for those who scored above the mark set by the uni for the LNAT score, they will then be given conditional offers they must meet in order to gain a place for the law degree. On results day if you miss the offer given, then your conditional offer will lapse but it depends on how much you have missed the offer by. So you will have to contact the admissions team in that uni and practically beg them to take you in. Chances of this are virtually slim.

The conditional offers that were lapsed will then be tallied so that when Clearing comes along, these places will be given to deserving students who FIRSTLY scored high for the LNAT and have done well for the exams by scoring AAA or A*AA or A*AB. Once the Clearing exercise is over, places will also be given to those who have exceeded their offers and wish to go to a better uni.

For example if Joe scored 35 on the LNAT and A*AA and his firm choice was Nottingham who had asked for AAA, he would now want to apply to LSE instead which he can now do so under Adjustment. Once again when he calls up LSE, the admission tutor will first ask him how much he scored for the LNAT and then his A level grades. (If he did not do the LNAT then he will have to take a gap year and do the LNAT and reapply the following year.)

But suppose Joe did the LNAT and scored 35 on it, he will then have to email the LSE admissions team and they will make him an offer over the phone. Joe will then call up his firm choice Nottingham to release him, he will call up LSE to inform them that Bristol has released him, LSE will then make an offer to him via ucase and he will then accept it. This entire exercise in this paragraph is normally done within a few hours.

Joe will not be silly to ask Nottingham to release him unless his place at LSE has been confirmed. Once Joe gets a place at LSE, his place at Nottingham will then be given to someone else who for example had applied to Bristol with an LNAT score of 30 and A*AA but now wants to go to a better uni. So the cycle is such where most people who exceeded their offers will want to go to a better uni. There will be some who are contented with the firm choice because he stays near that uni or he's someone who has lived near that uni all his life and doesn't want to relocate elsewhere etc.

So as a recap for those applying to LNAT unisLower ranked unis will be lenient on both results days and during Clearing because they are heavily undersubscribed. You'll have to monitor a couple of the online newspapers who will update available places on courses in real-time.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/clearing/

http://www.independent.co.uk/student/into-university/clearing/clearing-2016-what-do-do-after-a-level-gcse-exam-results-applying-to-university-a7174126.html

It doesn't matter if you've stated in your personal statement that you've done charity work or helped out at the food bank or gone out to the real world to stack shelves at Waitrose. Ace the LNAT and everything will fall into place. They have been cases in the past where people scored 13 in the LNAT and got a place at LSE but it's only hearsay. It may very well be true but those cases should number very few.

I did not have to compose this post but I want to because this forum has helped me a lot albeit only a handful of forum members (i'm thinking 4 or 5 people? )

I scored 18 in my first LNAT, LSE rejected me, I called them up, the person said sorry to me and to apply elsewhere so I took a gap year and scored 35 for my second LNAT.

You don't have to believe me. But i repeat this again for those who are unaware of this but are willing to hear me out and then do their own research before deciding if i'm speaking sense or not.

Personal statements don't matter one bit if you're applying to LNAT unis. If you score below a certain score which the LNAT uni has agreed by itself within its department to be the minimum mark for that application year then all applicants that have scored below that mark will be automatically rejected. You will be notified of that rejection via the personal portal (separate from UCAS) which all LNAT unis will create for you, provide the user ID and password to you for you to log in. It is in this portal where you can ask the tutor questions, they will reply to you or send them PDF copies of your results etc. Do a simple search on this forum and you will see so many who score 10, 11, 13, 15 etc for the LNAT and the LNAT unis rejected them outright. We will never ever know what the cut-off mark for the LNAT for that year is for a particular uni unless a Freedom of Information request is made.

Look at this link below. UCL first said that there is no benchmark score for the LNAT but then further down it says 'The average LNAT score for offer holders for 2014-15 was 27 (to the nearest whole number). For 2015-16 it was 28 (to the nearest whole number).
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/lnat_statistics_3

Admission tutors may say publicly that the entire LNAT and the personal statement is looked at as a whole. But i was told on good authority by those who know that the essay component of the LNAT doesn't count for anything. It's only the LNAT MCQ that matters. The function of the LNAT is to filter those who cannot think logically from those who can, under timed exam conditions. Although I disagree with this thinking behind the unis that have adopted the LNAT, it's their decision and you have to abide by it. If you had bothered to do a simple search on this forum, you will see many students from the past as far back as 2011 who have shared their horrible experiences such as computer malfunction, noisy candidates in the room, failure to prepare for the LNAT MCQ and so much more. All of them were rejected by the LNAT unis and they had to settle for the Russell Group unis.

Anyways for those who scored above the mark set by the uni for the LNAT score, they will then be given conditional offers they must meet in order to gain a place for the law degree. On results day if you miss the offer given, then your conditional offer will lapse but it depends on how much you have missed the offer by. So you will have to contact the admissions team in that uni and practically beg them to take you in. Chances of this are virtually slim.

The conditional offers that were lapsed will then be tallied so that when Clearing comes along, these places will be given to deserving students who FIRSTLY scored high for the LNAT and have done well for the exams by scoring AAA or A*AA or A*AB. Once the Clearing exercise is over, places will also be given to those who have exceeded their offers and wish to go to a better uni.

For example if Joe scored 35 on the LNAT and A*AA and his firm choice was Nottingham who had asked for AAA, he would now want to apply to LSE instead which he can now do so under Adjustment. Once again when he calls up LSE, the admission tutor will first ask him how much he scored for the LNAT and then his A level grades. (If he did not do the LNAT then he will have to take a gap year and do the LNAT and reapply the following year.)

But suppose Joe did the LNAT and scored 35 on it, he will then have to email the LSE admissions team and they will make him an offer over the phone. Joe will then call up his firm choice Nottingham to release him, he will call up LSE to inform them that Bristol has released him, LSE will then make an offer to him via ucase and he will then accept it. This entire exercise in this paragraph is normally done within a few hours.

Joe will not be silly to ask Nottingham to release him unless his place at LSE has been confirmed. Once Joe gets a place at LSE, his place at Nottingham will then be given to someone else who for example had applied to Bristol with an LNAT score of 30 and A*AA but now wants to go to a better uni. So the cycle is such where most people who exceeded their offers will want to go to a better uni. There will be some who are contented with the firm choice because he stays near that uni or he's someone who has lived near that uni all his life and doesn't want to relocate elsewhere etc.

So as a recap for those applying to LNAT unisLower ranked unis will be lenient on both results days and during Clearing because they are heavily undersubscribed. You'll have to monitor a couple of the online newspapers who will update available places on courses in real-time.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/clearing/

http://www.independent.co.uk/student/into-university/clearing/clearing-2016-what-do-do-after-a-level-gcse-exam-results-applying-to-university-a7174126.html

It doesn't matter if you've stated in your personal statement that you've done charity work or helped out at the food bank or gone out to the real world to stack shelves at Waitrose. Ace the LNAT and everything will fall into place. They have been cases in the past where people scored 13 in the LNAT and got a place at LSE but it's only hearsay. It may very well be true but those cases should number very few.

Y-You're doing your LNAT at 3 in the morning?

'its not about which uni u graduate from but what you can do with that degree'. i do agree with this statement but only to an extent. but thats not important now. you need to understand that law jobs in UK are practically scarce. so you need to look at emerging markets which welcomes foreigners into their countries to do legal work such as Hong Kong, Brunei, Singapore. These countries have only heard of oxbridge, the 5 london unis, nottingham and warwick. so you have to play it safe.

you want to be a law student but you must be able to listen to other people's opinions first and then research on it before you conclude whether to entertain it or dismiss it. what you're doing now is simply dismissing everything because

Hey guys,
I just sent my application for Law off yesterday
GCSES: 6A*s, 5A,
AS Levels: AAAB
A Level Predictions: A*AA
Universities: Oxford, Birmingham, Nottingham, Warwick and KCL
My LNATs on Monday 17th, so I'm kind of freaking out, haven't had much time to practice

Having my LNAT on the same day as you! I'm kind of freaking out too haha. Where are you taking it?

I'm taking it at 12 in England, don't feel as prepared as I thought I would be. Honestly, I find both sections hard, but the essay section is the WORST!

Haha I'm taking mine at 8:15 in England!

I also don't feel that prepared, and also find the essay section a lot worse. But on the bright side, most unis focus more on the MCQ score! KCL doesn't even actually look at the essay, from what I've heard!

Good luck and I'm sure you'll do well

Thanks I hope you do well too.
I guess the only reason I'm worried for the essay section is because Oxford take it seriously, plus I don't do essay based subjects (apart from Law which doesn't count) so my essay writing is not great.
Also, what other unis have you applied for? (if you've already said this I'm sorry I'm just too tired and lazy to find the post )