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Original post by AlexS101
At least Hillary and Donald know what Aleppo is...
It'd be like the UK having the choice between Nick Griffin or George Galloway


People make such a big deal about the Aleppo thing, but Johnson is a non-interventionist in foreign policy anyway, his knowledge of middle eastern geography is hardly important.

I'd rather have someone who is geographically ignorant like Johnson, than economically ignorant like trump (his economic plans literally make no sense) , or morally bankrupt like Hillary (Benghazi would've never happened under a libertarian administration)
Original post by Connor27
Yet another reason why America is ****ed if either main candidate wins, vote Gary Johnson folks


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3O01EfM5fU

Skip to 10:30...but in watch it in general, too.
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Original post by Connor27
People make such a big deal about the Aleppo thing, but Johnson is a non-interventionist in foreign policy anyway, his knowledge of middle eastern geography is hardly important.

I'd rather have someone who is geographically ignorant like Johnson, than economically ignorant like trump (his economic plans literally make no sense) , or morally bankrupt like Hillary (Benghazi would've never happened under a libertarian administration)


He actually does believe in certain interventions and has stated he'd likely keep troops in the middle east, just nowhere else. So I imagine his command of geography could be important.

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Original post by Connor27
Yet another reason why America is ****ed if either main candidate wins, vote Gary Johnson folks


He didn't know what Aleppo was, couldn't name a single foreign leader and doesn't know who Kim Jong Un is. No chance.
Oh, give it up. You can't possibly sling enough mud at Hilary to stop her winning the election at this point.
Original post by anosmianAcrimony
Oh, give it up. You can't possibly sling enough mud at Hilary to stop her winning the election at this point.


I hope you choke on your words when she doesn't.
Sounds like one of those things that some minor official who once interacted with the Clintons for 30 seconds out of 10 years in the job makes up to try to sound clued in. I also very much doubt that they used the word 'servant' or treated staff in that way, the Clintons were very well liked in the White House by black staffers and praised for their non-racist attitudes and dealings by many black people.
Original post by Aj12
One claim of someone being called a niggar vs 8 counts of sexual harassment. Why would you even try to compare that?


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They're both just unsubstantiated claims, appearing years after the event suspiciously close to an election. Both should be given pretty much no weight.
Original post by Observatory
They're both just unsubstantiated claims, appearing years after the event suspiciously close to an election. Both should be given pretty much no weight.


There are too many claims of sexual harassment against Trump and from too many disparate sources to just brush them off as election stunts. There is also a history with Trump and they align with his own public, on the record, extremely sexist remarks, including about his own daughter and about his future sexual plans towards a girl who was 10 at the time at a public event in front of her.

Pull the other one basically.
Original post by Fullofsurprises
There are too many claims of sexual harassment against Trump and from too many disparate sources to just brush them off as election stunts.

If you wanted to make a complaint you wouldn't wait until tens year later when it can caused maximum political damage to someone who wasn't a politician at the time he allegedly attack you. These complaints are almost certainly made up, and it's not much harder to make up eight (or whatever) complaints than one.

There is also a history with Trump and they align with his own public, on the record, extremely sexist remarks, including about his own daughter and about his future sexual plans towards a girl who was 10 at the time at a public event in front of her.

Pull the other one basically.


Trump's other statements might be objectionable in their own right but tactical accusations add nothing more to them.
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Original post by Fullofsurprises
There are too many claims of sexual harassment against Trump and from too many disparate sources to just brush them off as election stunts. There is also a history with Trump and they align with his own public, on the record, extremely sexist remarks, including about his own daughter and about his future sexual plans towards a girl who was 10 at the time at a public event in front of her.

Pull the other one basically.

Lmao, most of them have never even met Trump and have dubious connections to the Clinton foundation
Original post by Observatory
If you wanted to make a complaint you wouldn't wait until tens year later when it can caused maximum political damage to someone who wasn't a politician at the time he allegedly attack you. These complaints are almost certainly made up, and it's not much harder to make up eight (or whatever) complaints than one.



Trump's other statements might be objectionable in their own right but tactical accusations add nothing more to them.


'Objectionable' hardly covers it - outrageous and disgusting might be closer to the mark. Also, you don't know much about women and power relations between someone like him and ordinary women if you think it's easy to report problems for us.

Oh and of course Trump's former wife Ivana is amongst the complainants. During a deposition in the 1990s, she explained how her former husband violently raped her.
http://qz.com/804486/the-women-whove-accused-donald-trump-of-sexual-assault/
Original post by ftw93
Lmao, most of them have never even met Trump and have dubious connections to the Clinton foundation


Stop making stuff up, there is plentiful evidence of their relationships with Trump in all of the cases.

Do you feel that Ivana had no relationship with Trump when she was married to him and he raped her? Perhaps she was working for the Clintons at the time. :lol:
why are sucking politicians dicks and pussies they arent there to help you you guys are idiots for voting them mind your own business
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It's totally out-of-character, and if this had happened I'm fairly certain that we would have heard about it a lot sooner. This is a last-minute attempt to smear the Clinton campaign.
Original post by Fullofsurprises
'Objectionable' hardly...

Whatever. It has nothing to do with what I said and nothing to do with the thread topic.
Original post by Connor27
People make such a big deal about the Aleppo thing, but Johnson is a non-interventionist in foreign policy anyway, his knowledge of middle eastern geography is hardly important.


What a ludicrous position to adopt. You're saying that Gary Johnson would be so isolationist that he doesn't really need to be even basically well-informed about the world? Even if the US chose not to get involved in certain things, they would still have a relationship with other countries, they would still need to collect information, they would still need to adopt a position in various world affairs. Being led by a man who is so insular and poorly-informed that he didn't even know what Aleppo is... well, it's idiocy.

morally bankrupt like Hillary (Benghazi would've never happened under a libertarian administration)


Why do rightists always push on this "Hillary so corrupt, so evil" angle? Nobody has ever been able to point out anything of that sort that Hillary has ever actually done, it's all ludicrous conspiracy theories (like that Bill and Hill had Vince Foster killed).

As for Benghazi, how exactly is Clinton to blame? It sounds like you're just parroting talking points you've picked up from American websites, but you don't really understand them or the underlying issue. It was the Republicans who refused Clinton's requests for additional funds for embassy security; it was the Republicans who not only refused those requests, but cut State Department funding for security.

And the fact is that the world is not a 100% "safe space" as you seem to want it to be. Sometimes it is a dangerous place, sometimes bad things happen. The State Department made a valid decision that the Benghazi legation had to be small and low profile; that is a legitimate judgment in the conduct of a foreign policy. The people who are to blame are the Al-Qaeda criminals.

There have been 9 congressional investigations into Benghazi, not one has found any smoking gun against Clinton. If anything they have served to confirm Clinton's position. This is why Ambassador Stevens mother has been speaking out against Trump and the rightists, about how they are disgracefully using her son's death for political purposes, about how Trump and the rightists want to ride Stevens' body all the way into the White House.

But you don't seem to realise, the hysteria with which you perceive Benghazi is not shared by the vast majority of normal, sane Americans. And it's the fixating on these non-issues that are why Trump is losing so badly and Johnson is a complete non-entity
Original post by Connor27
Yet another reason why America is ****ed if either main candidate wins, vote Gary Johnson folks


Gary Johnson's **** too.
Original post by Observatory
Whatever. It has nothing to do with what I said and nothing to do with the thread topic.


Not sure how you got there. You said that the allegations from all those women had the same dodgy status as this allegation against Hillary. I showed that this is not true and you then rejected the premise of the conversation. Are you sticking by your assertion that all these women, including Trump's former wife, made up the allegations against him?
Original post by Fullofsurprises
Not sure how you got there. You said that the allegations from all those women had the same dodgy status as this allegation against Hillary. I showed that this is not true and you then rejected the premise of the conversation. Are you sticking by your assertion that all these women, including Trump's former wife, made up the allegations against him?


I've said that accusations of assault made long after the alleged assault but timed to be of maximum PR impact in a political campaign are unlikely to be true.

You have replied that Trump is a bad guy. What of it?

The allegation by Trump's wife is very likely true but then it didn't come out in the past few days did it? Trump's wife acted as I would expect a real victim to act and complained at the time of the alleged assault.
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