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Hate crimes increase in the US after Trump's victory

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Original post by joecphillips
It doesn't discredit what he uncovered


Sorry, posted wrong link. Here is the correct one: http://www.npr.org/2016/10/19/498587397/sting-video-purports-to-show-democrats-describing-how-to-commit-voter-fraud

The question remains as to how accurate O'Keefe's videos are.

"The videos are edited, and O'Keefe and Project Veritas have a history of selectively and at times misleadingly editing their videos. While they have previously posted raw footage, they have not done so with these latest stings."
Original post by josh75
It doesn't matter that the reporter got paid, we have video evidence of them admitting to what they have done. By this logic if someone has a PI record video evidence of their spouses adultery, that spouse now didn't cheat right? Or is your argument that the members of the Clinton campaign were paid by trump as well and that they are just plants to make Hillary look bad.


Evidence is questionable...

http://www.npr.org/2016/10/19/498587397/sting-video-purports-to-show-democrats-describing-how-to-commit-voter-fraud
Original post by jambojim97
There's a difference between the inevitable violence that comes from protests, and specific targeted harassment of minorities.

Re your second point, can you provide a source?


Violence is not inevitable with protest thats not an argument, the people who engage are adults not apes. The issue is that BLM is mired in left wing black supremacy, that as a black person i find disgusting. Where are the police reports of people getting arrested for this targeting. Honestly the only targeting I see are white people getting beaten by black people.
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Original post by jambojim97
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Trump-Victory-Sees-Spike-in-Hate-Crimes-20161109-0037.html

And this, ladies and gentlemen is why Clinton was a better choice in spite of her numerous flaws. Inevitably, the nasties are emerging from the woodwork. Before we know it, racialist pseudoscience, gay conversion 'therapy', forced pregnancy, antisemitism and indiscriminate, generalised 'criticism' of ALL Muslims will be considered mainstream thanks to Trump.

I bet all the white supremacists fascists* are having a f*cking party right now. There will be a backlash in America. If and when this influences opinion in the UK and elsewhere, there will be a backlash. And I promise you that, as a 'pc liberal social justice warrior', I will be part of this backlash.

Stay safe, minorities.

Spoiler


Isolated incidents. As was the case during the campaign (you do remember that one of Trump's campaign offices was firebombed) Clinton supporters are kicking off (watch the news) big time and are rioting across the USA. Obviously they do not have the intelligence to understand what democracy is!


No it isnt we have it on camera, dont give me that bs.
Ahh , typical strategy of lefties saying "hate crimes" increase after something or someone i didnt want was elected.

Happened with Brexit.
Original post by josh75
Violence is not inevitable with protest thats not an argument, the people who engage are adults not apes. The issue is that BLM is mired in left wing black supremacy, that as a black person i find disgusting. Where are the police reports of people getting arrested for this targeting. Honestly the only targeting I see are white people getting beaten by black people.


Quite a few BLM protesters are getting arrested, actually:

Spoiler



Furthermore, you cannot generalise that BLM is inherently 'black supremacist', as the BLM movement is not centralised. I certainly have my criticisms of some factions of BLM as much as the next person, but I have never heard of a BLM protester saying 'blacks are superior'....
Original post by josh75
No it isnt we have it on camera, dont give me that bs.


The validity of what was 'caught on camera' is questionable, because it was edited! Completely different to raw footage.
Your an idiot! I do not support neither candidates but if you actually look at the statistics it is mostly Democrat protesters causing most of the crimes, possibly in your small mind you can't think of that.
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Original post by jambojim97
Sorry, posted wrong link. Here is the correct one: http://www.npr.org/2016/10/19/498587397/sting-video-purports-to-show-democrats-describing-how-to-commit-voter-fraud

The question remains as to how accurate O'Keefe's videos are.

"The videos are edited, and O'Keefe and Project Veritas have a history of selectively and at times misleadingly editing their videos. While they have previously posted raw footage, they have not done so with these latest stings."


In what context would the things discussed be acceptable?
Original post by Orbital Rising
'A man is known by the company he keeps' - Aesop. Wise words.


Hmm, Hillary is married to a rapist :smile:
Original post by jambojim97
Quite a few BLM protesters are getting arrested, actually:

Spoiler



Furthermore, you cannot generalise that BLM is inherently 'black supremacist', as the BLM movement is not centralised. I certainly have my criticisms of some factions of BLM as much as the next person, but I have never heard of a BLM protester saying 'blacks are superior'....


The BLM movement doesnt have to be centralised, but if different parts of the movement dont agree with others why do they not publically decry each other
http://bluelivesmatter.blue/riots-in-white-communities/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3802230/War-zone-Charlotte-White-man-begs-mercy-beaten-reporter-nearly-dragged-fire-rioters-people-told-stay-home-work-police-shooting-black-father.html
Original post by jambojim97
The validity of what was 'caught on camera' is questionable, because it was edited! Completely different to raw footage.


Not when they admit what they had done. Also you dont seem to have a reply to the fact that Hillary is bought by all of the worst people in the world.
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How has TSR become so right wing over the years, considering how young the users of this website are, and the majority of young people voted democrat according to exit polls?

Lots of keyboard warriors around these days. You lot have never experienced a single bit of racism against yourselves yet claim racism by white people against other minorities doesn't exist and other minorities are equally as racist against white folk :rofl:

Racism well and truly exists. Sure not every white person is racist and not every person from other races is the peace loving friendly type. But there is no doubt that Trump was strongly supported by white supremacists. The KKK were supportive of Trump. Surely you know you are pretty horrendous when probably the most well known white supremacist group in the world backs you.

But nah let's forget all these facts about who the core Republican supporters are and ignore the racism in the world hey? :dunce:

p.s. yes, I have had plenty of racist comments thrown at me over the years and genuinely do believe that many people are inherently racist because it's a natural fear of the "other", but being natural doesn't mean we shouldn't highlight it and stop it from happening!
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Original post by DarthRoar
Hmm, Hillary is married to a rapist :smile:


Trump was endorsed by DPRK, Putin, KKK, CPC, Don Black, Vojislav Seselj, Ilias Panagiataros, August Kreis III, Aleksander Dugin and Don King.
Original post by josh75
Not when they admit what they had done. Also you dont seem to have a reply to the fact that Hillary is bought by all of the worst people in the world.


Nothing in that video is certain, because it was edited and the validity had been questioned.

Apropos your second point, the same could be said about Trump.


There could be all sorts of reasons. It's difficult to say because there is no commentary on why the different factions of BLM don't agree with each other. I'm not buying what I think you're suggesting: that the less aggressive factions of BLM secretly support the more aggressive factions.

I reiterate, brutality for Blue Lives Matter is not part of the racist, systematic hate of the Trump's ilk.
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Original post by jambojim97
Nothing in that video is certain, because it was edited and the validity had been questioned.

Apropos your second point, the same could be said about Trump.


no its validity hasnt been questioned, the motives of making the video where questioned. Moroever they were questioned by an entity that is incredibly pro Hillary.

Who bought trump his a billionaire? He even insulted a Saudi prince on twitter.
Original post by jambojim97
There could be all sorts of reasons. It's difficult to say because there is no commentary on why the different factions of BLM don't agree with each other. I'm not buying what I think you're suggesting: that the less aggressive factions of BLM secretly support the more aggressive factions.


They march with them, there not attacked when they riot. They call anyone who calls these criminals what they are a racist, and again they have never publicly decried their behaviour. All reason points to silent condolence, so much so that for you to argue this you need to provide positive proof otherwise.
Original post by josh75
no its validity hasnt been questioned, the motives of making the video where questioned. Moroever they were questioned by an entity that is incredibly pro Hillary.

Who bought trump his a billionaire? He even insulted a Saudi prince on twitter.


It quite clearly says in the article that it is not clear whether or not the video was edited in such away that would make it appear what it was supposedly saying.

I don't understand the last part of your reply.

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