Nietzsche On The Arab Spring

The problem is that you have defined Western ideals as the only ideal, when the Arab Spring occurred all Western commentators had a word on their lips ''Freedom''. The Middle East had neo-Christian cultural values imposed on it by the outside and Arab Spring was a rejection of this in favour of Islamic values.

I never defined Western ideals as the only ideal. However, everyone was full of hope that the Arab Spring would lead to fundamental change in the Middle East. Instead it has remained fundamentally the same.

My point is that fundamental change in the Middle East will not come from noisy revolutions but the creators of new values. Will the Middle East get a re-valuator of values like Mohammed? It seems not.

No, it has changed, they rejected Western influence in favour of Islam. It has fundamentally changed, just not in the direction people in the West though. In the West we have this idea of ''the man'' and he's racist, homophobic, socially conservative and generally not very cool and when you have a revolution you go from less liberal to more liberal, you stick it to the man, well guess what, the world isn't the West and in other parts of the world they love authoritarian leaders and they see Western puppet leaders as liberal degenerates so when they rebel, they are replacing the old Western values with a more austere value of morals and decency.


I'm not saying I agree, but that actually is how it is.

Actually you are wrong, Islam has had revolutions, but they were not Whig/Jacobin revolutions like the American war of independence or the French revolution. During the medieval period the Islamic world was fairly liberal, up until the Mongols sacked Baghdad 1258, they absolutely brutalised the Muslims, the Caliph's daughter was raped by the Mongol Khan. Islam had this introspective period where they saw the Mongol hordes as curse from Allah and rejected things such as science or philosophy as outside influences from the Greeks in the following years they crushed the Mongols and pushed their borders back reestablishing the Caliphate. I find it so stupid that White people think that the rest of the world will act like them.


(BTW I am White and non-Muslim in case you are wondering.)