US expels 35 Russian diplomats for alleged election intervention

If the CIA were unable to prevent this, perhaps high-ranking members should be fired for incompetence.

It's not that uncommon, happens (both ways) on a semi-regular basis.

CIA doesn't have authority over cyber issues, that is the National Security Agency (the electronic and signals intelligence agency, part of the Department of Defence) and Cyber Command (a combatant command of the US military).

Furthermore, it was a hack of the Democratic National Committee, a private organisation. Ultimately the blame lies with President Obama; his weak foreign policy has brought us to this point. We need "cyber-deterrence", just as we had nuclear deterrence. Expelling a few diplomats and sanctioning a few Russian intelligence officers isn't going to do the trick; we need to cause a meltdown on their ****ing networks, and then dare them to escalate

The United States economy is eight times the size of Russia's. There's no question we could maintain escalation dominance if we had the balls. Our hackers are unquestionably superior to the Russians. The problem is that the cyber brief has been held by organisations like the NSA and GCHQ, which are intelligence agencies; they are likely sitting on most Russian government networks, watching, waiting, collective intelligence. They don't want to give up that access to send a message (for the access that allows you to sit on their networks watching is the same access you can use to start breaking ****), but send a message we must. We have more to lose, but we can afford to lose more too

NSA in that case, but yes that is the principle, rather than complaining at what the Russians may or may not being doing, the people responsible for dealing with this issue should be held to account or else it looks like Obama is just mad about the election result.

NSA in that case, but yes that is the principle, rather than complaining at what the Russians may or may not being doing, the people responsible for dealing with this issue should be held to account or else it looks like Obama is just mad about the election result.

Russia has done what the media should've done, exposing crooked Hillary's lies and deception.

Don't think NSA is responsible as Hillary used her private server. NSA's job is to defend against official servers.

If anything, #LockHerUp

I don't agree that it looks like that, at all.

We need to respond, very strongly. Russia needs to fear us, and they don't because President Obama's foreign policy has been shamefully weak. Foreign powers construe his "coolness" as weakness.

Russia has to pay, big time, for this. An attack on our election is an act that touches on our most sensitive and grave national interests. We should be **** them up in a big cyber attack; cripple their banking network, switch the power grid on and off in Moscow, make it clear who is the superpower and who is the laughable, pathetic shadow of its former self. They won't respond because they cannot maintain escalation dominance, and they can't afford to lose as much as we can afford to. Fundamentally, if a foreign power feels they are able to act in this way, then the whole point of the military and intelligence agencies (to protect us from being coerced and manipulated by foreign powers) has failed. We need to re-establish our dominance.

But that will be costly. And ultimately, President Obama is to blame. It is his weakness that the Russians have responded to. They must be made to pay, but President Obama must take the lion's share of the blame.

So gullible.

Like so many Trump supporters, your position viz. Trump is "Rape me, rob me blind, I don't care; just validate my bigotry and make me feel okay about being a white supremacist piece of ****"

Nope. Its job is to protect all critical national infrastructure.



D'aww, you really believed Trump was going to "lock her up". The poor little baby, what are you going to do now that no such thing will happen?

I don't agree that it looks like that, at all.

We need to respond, very strongly. Russia needs to fear us, and they don't because President Obama's foreign policy has been shamefully weak. Foreign powers construe his "coolness" as weakness.

Russia has to pay, big time, for this. An attack on our election is an act that touches on our most sensitive and grave national interests. We should be **** them up in a big cyber attack; cripple their banking network, switch the power grid on and off in Moscow, make it clear who is the superpower and who is the laughable, pathetic shadow of its former self. They won't respond because they cannot maintain escalation dominance, and they can't afford to lose as much as we can afford to. Fundamentally, if a foreign power feels they are able to act in this way, then the whole point of the military and intelligence agencies (to protect us from being coerced and manipulated by foreign powers) has failed. We need to re-establish our dominance.

But that will be costly. And ultimately, President Obama is to blame. It is his weakness that the Russians have responded to. They must be made to pay, but President Obama must take the lion's share of the blame.

Don't think NSA is responsible as Hillary used her private server. NSA's job is to defend against official servers. If anything, #LockHerUp

We shouldn't respond kinetically, of course, but we should respond in the strongest possible terms online; start crippling their banking system, messing up their internet backbone, making it clear that if they ever try something like that again, they are risking a situation they cannot control or predict the outcome of.