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I need help on a mechanics 2 question



Which part? What have you tried?
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Which part? What have you tried?

It will be useful if you post all your working and show us the diagram that you have drawn.

EDIT: @RDKGames snap!
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I have done part a and got acceleration to be 4.48ms^-2
Need help on part b
Reply 4
The string breaks so there's no tension anymore.

Now, consider the work done by the friction and the loss of mechanical energy
Reply 5
Original post by shahs341
I have done part a and got acceleration to be 4.48ms^-2
Need help on part b

It's very important that you tell us what you have tried and why you are stuck. This is a topic that is taught differently by different teachers so we need to know how you normally go about a question like this. If you post your working then that will show us.
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Original post by shahs341
My working out:

The diagram I used:

I haven't checked all your working but I think you've made a mistake when considering the gravitational potential energy.

Remember that the gain in GPE is equal to mghmgh where hh is the vertical distance moved. But you need to work out the distance moved up the slope.

Does that help?
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You need to also consider the work done by friction
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When B descend down by 1m, does A also move 1m up the slope?
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Original post by metrize
You need to also consider the work done by friction


K.E lost = mgh gained - work done by the frictional force ?
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Original post by notnek
I haven't checked all your working but I think you've made a mistake when considering the gravitational potential energy.

Remember that the gain in GPE is equal to mghmgh where hh is the vertical distance moved. But you need to work out the distance moved up the slope.

Does that help?


no sorry tried this and didn't get the right answer
Original post by shahs341
When B descend down by 1m, does A also move 1m up the slope?



yeah thats right
Original post by shahs341
K.E lost = mgh gained - work done by the frictional force ?


I got taught loss GPE + loss KE = work done by friction



I can try to answer it if you give me 5 mins, do you have the answer with you?
Original post by shahs341
When B descend down by 1m, does A also move 1m up the slope?


Yes but is that 'h' in the formula mgh?
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Original post by metrize
yeah thats right


I got taught loss GPE + loss KE = work done by friction



I can try to answer it if you give me 5 mins, do you have the answer with you?


the answer from the book is 1.51 m

good luck!
Reply 15
Original post by Muttley79
Yes but is that 'h' in the formula mgh?


yes that's h - the vertical distance moved
Original post by shahs341
yes that's h - the vertical distance moved


1 metre up the slope is not 1 metre vertically ...
Here's what I did, see if you can follow it and get the answer:

Starting from Loss KE + Loss GPE = Work done by friction

I let d be the distance it moves up the slope. Since I let d be the distance up the slope, my loss in GPE will be negative
Work done by friction is d mu R.

Remember that the vertical height the object moves if it goes d up the slope is dsin theta vertically
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Original post by metrize
Here's what I did, see if you can follow it and get the answer:

Starting from Loss KE + Loss GPE = Work done by friction

I let d be the distance it moves up the slope. Since I let d be the distance up the slope, my loss in GPE will be negative
Work done by friction is d mu R.

Remember that the vertical height the object moves if it goes d up the slope is dsin theta vertically


Well explained, I got the answer thanks!

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