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Stopped reading at line 2.

Rape.
Rape, confirmed and don't worry I'm calm today :smile:
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Original post by 0to100
Stopped reading at line 2.

Rape.


Smh.
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So would you say that even if A isn't traumatized at all, doesn't think of B as a rapist and still in a long happy relationship with B?

Would B still be considered guilty and punished to face the consequences?


Would it ever get to court? Probably not.

Was it rape? How many times do we have to say 'yes' and point to why it obviously is before you believe us?
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Original post by EC
Smh.


Why smh?

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Smh.


What're you shaking your head for? I said it was rape because line 2 where he's grabbing her though she left him is all I need to read.
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Original post by 0to100
What're you shaking your head for? I said it was rape because line 2 where he's grabbing her though she left him is all I need to read.


LINE 2 WOULD BE "Person B does not allow Person A to leave, which" and basically she could defend herself.
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I don't find it just as easy to say it's rape as you do apparently.
@EC who did you rape and are you sure they enjoyed it?
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@EC who did you rape and are you sure they enjoyed it?


Finally someone figured it out. Took you a while. Clearly you know me the best....
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Finally someone figured it out. Took you a while. Clearly you know me the best....


Do you need a lawyer?
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I don't find it just as easy to say it's rape as you do apparently.


Because most of us know the definition for the UK. Fitting your scenario to the law, then it clearly meets the requirements and as has been pointed out all the other details show it would be pronlematic if it ever came to a prosecution.


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So if you look at the definition they key point is whether A believed at the moment he penetrated B. What B thopught after is immaterial for whether it was rape or not. That is why you can read your post and call it rape quite clearly without worrying about the rest. Its less complicated than you make out. It might have a bearing on whether there was any action ever taken, but that is a different matter.
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Original post by EC
I don't find it just as easy to say it's rape as you do apparently.


It's pretty much a clear-cut case.

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If person A didn't want to do it in the beginning then it's rape and due to his behaviour before hand it probably means he would end up doing it again and controlling her more and more to a point where she would get no enjoyment and it would defiantly be rape and an abusive relationship


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I don't find it just as easy to say it's rape as you do apparently.


But it -is- very easy. Let's turn the scenario on its head:

Person B has consensual sex with person A. It turns out to be disappointing and she doesn't enjoy it and does feel let down and angry with the person she had consensual sex with.

Is that rape?

Because if it -isn't- rape, then you have a de facto case for saying that there is no after-the-fact rule with regards to rape. If someone says no, they mean no and regardless of how they feel about it afterwards, it fits the definition of rape.

However, it would be very difficult to bring charges in that case. Not least because the girl herself wouldn't press charges in all likelihood.
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Original post by 999tigger
Because most of us know the definition for the UK. Fitting your scenario to the law, then it clearly meets the requirements and as has been pointed out all the other details show it would be pronlematic if it ever came to a prosecution.


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http://image.stirileprotv.ro/media/images/686x394/Nov2016/61849673.jpg

The study was released this summer and published in November, most of the people in my country find it is justified even if not given consent. So that clearly affected my view.
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It's pretty much a clear-cut case.

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http://image.stirileprotv.ro/media/images/686x394/Nov2016/61849673.jpg
Yes.

The moment someone says "No" it's rape.
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Original post by EC


What's the context of this? What situations justify what? Who was interviewed?

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LINE 2 WOULD BE "Person B does not allow Person A to leave, which" and basically she could defend herself.


...Don't yell.

Also, no...I get that she could have defended herself, he, whoever. But it turns out they didn't, as most people probably wouldn't get away. But I see now that you're the type who strictly puts the blame on the person: "she got violently raped. But meh she could have defended herself so who cares."

Sorry but what kind of woman says that? There's even males on here saying it's clearly rape lol

Mind concisely summarising your op because man don't care about reading all that.

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