Swiss win EU case - Muslim girls must swim with boys

THere is, they don't want little boys to see their daughters skin, yet it's acceptable for girls to see them and for them to see boys. Expecting segregation on these basis is not proper of civilised contemporary people.

If these Muslims want to practise their religion (if not having mixed swimming pools IS practising it by the way) could you please tell me why they can't just leave Switzerland and go and live in a Muslim majority country? Perhaps even the war torn third world hellhole they probably fled from in the first place?

Why does that country have to adapt, dilute its "liberty", to suit them? They want to come and live in Switzerland? Fine. That is the deal. If you don't like it, leave, or don't come in the first place.

Bravo Switzerland.

The thing I don't understand is:
Gender segregated swimming is not going to harm anyone
Mixed swimming is going to hurt Muslims and some other religious groups

So why not choose the option that satisfies everyone??

Muslims are just not integrating, I honestly dont know why theyre making such a big issue and becoming an inconvenience to society. Yes, theyre entitled to freedom of religion but this doesnt constitute to freedom of religion.

yes I'm such a big inconvenience to this society, thats why I'm gonna be treating people like you working in the f***ing NHS

And our "rules" support freedom of religion. It could be argued that this infringes on that principle.

Im referring to the muslims in the OP that should have been clear. Disrupting swimming lessons and wasting time in a human rights court is a massive inconvenience to society.

Because gender segregated swimming harm's Muslims.It deprives Muslim children of the opportunity to interact with the opposite sex.Just because their parents believe something backwards does not mean they should have the right to inflict it upon their children.Especially when said beliefs are based upon imaginary concepts.

Muslims are turning this into a us and them by refusing to assimilate

how exactly am I refusing to assimilate? tell me since you seem to ****ing know so much about me

It obviously doesn't apply to every single Muslim ever, don't act like there isn't a problem with Muslims when there quite clearly is.

Really not sure how I feel about this as it is probably an infringement on religious freedom. They shouldn't be forced to swim with boys, but they certainly shouldn't be allocated their own separate pool either.

there isn't a problem, I know loads of muslims who are doctors in training, pharmacist in training, nurses or planning to work for the british military. We go to university, and work to serve society either through businesses and etc. In what way are we not assimilating. Is it because muslims tend to be friends with each other? (I guess this is also what I noticed and I think its wrong but you see this with other groups too, in my uni the whites tend to stick together and dont talk to us coloured people, the indians also stick together and so do orientals). So stop being so ridiculous, I'm getting so fed up of all of this and I'm already having a really bad day

there isn't a problem, I know loads of muslims who are doctors in training, pharmacist in training, nurses or planning to work for the british military. We go to university, and work to serve society either through businesses and etc. In what way are we not assimilating. Is it because muslims tend to be friends with each other? (I guess this is also what I noticed and I think its wrong but you see this with other groups too, in my uni the whites tend to stick together and dont talk to us coloured people, the indians also stick together and so do orientals). So stop being so ridiculous, I'm getting so fed up of all of this and I'm already having a really bad day

They're asking for special treatment, therefore it is a problem and isn't assimilation. If they don't like it, they are free to leave Switzerland and move to a Muslim country.

there isn't a problem, I know loads of muslims who are doctors in training, pharmacist in training, nurses or planning to work for the british military. We go to university, and work to serve society either through businesses and etc. In what way are we not assimilating. Is it because muslims tend to be friends with each other? (I guess this is also what I noticed and I think its wrong but you see this with other groups too, in my uni the whites tend to stick together and dont talk to us coloured people, the indians also stick together and so do orientals). So stop being so ridiculous, I'm getting so fed up of all of this and I'm already having a really bad day

oh so religious freedom and freedom of expression means nothing yh? Or does it only mean something when it suits you? And what if the muslim in question is a native? People like you say that you have the right to draw the muslim prophet because of freedom of expression but this freedom of expression suddenly dissappears when a muslim is involved. Its so pathetic

I actually believe that no religion should be involved in the state or anything in the public sphere. - I.e who can swim where.

Drawing a picture is totally different as it does not effect any part of the public sphere on a day to day basis.

Plus, you're argument is flawed. Saying that "we go to uni, we are doctors etc.so therefore there is no problem with any Muslim" - that's the same flawed logic as saying "all Muslims are terrorist because ISIS are muslim"

Just because you've made a positive genrilisation, doesn't divert from your flawed argument.

Then again you won't say anythjng negative about any fellow Muslim as you'll be exiled from the community right?

it does affect the public sphere because it offends people (besides I think people should be allowed to draw whatever they want to draw including the muslim prophet because I'm not a hypocrite like you)

My question: why is the Swiss government forcing parents to send their children to swim classes in the first place?