Why would anyone want to be in EU?

OK before anyone responds by calling me a racist or that leaving will cause mass economic problems *yawn*....
WHY do you actually want to remain, what is so great about the EU, haven't actually seen anyone give actual evidence it is better for UK. Just 'do gooders' calling me an idiot...

UK citizens are guaranteed more rights being in the EU than being out. For example, the rights to work, study and live in any EU country.

OK before anyone responds by calling me a racist or that leaving will cause mass economic problems *yawn*....
WHY do you actually want to remain, what is so great about the EU, haven't actually seen anyone give actual evidence it is better for UK. Just 'do gooders' calling me an idiot...

Speaking as a student, the fact that 16% of UK universities funding comes in the form of grants from the EU seems one pretty good reason to want to remain a part of it. In addition, being able to work and study anywhere in Europe is also a pretty attractive advantage.

But once we leave why can't we just pass the EU ideas we liked into our own laws

Being in the European Union provides several advantages to both businesses and individuals in the UK.

First of all is the freedom of movement of goods, services and capital which basically means that if a service or product is bought by a UK company from another EU country or vice versa, they will not have to pay import duty (a tax) on these things. This makes it cheaper for UK businesses who buy raw materials from abroad, therefore keeping their costs down. It also makes it easier for businesses to sell to other EU countries (eg. if you are in Belgium and have to choose between a supplier inside the EU and one outside that sell their service for the same price, you would not have to pay import duty for the EU supplier so that would be cheaper). The fact that the other EU countries are our largest export and import partners means that the UK could be hurt by Brexit, whilst making prices of goods in the UK higher for consumers.

Secondly, there is the freedom of movement across the EU. This means that if you live and one EU country and want to live in another, you don't need any permission or documentation to do this. If the economy were to crash in the UK and we were still in the EU, you could easily just go to another EU country and get a job there (the same applies if you want to go to university in another EU country). This also guarantees visa-free travel as well as some healthcare cover when holidaying in the EU.

Thirdly, there are the laws made by the EU. These laws include vast amounts of human rights laws and regulations as well as a lot of consumer protections. If you think that the Tories will just pass these into UK law, then think again. Other laws include regulations which protect the environment and reduce pollution and greenhouse gas emissions. Police forces in different countries can also cooperate in order to make it easier to catch criminals who operate in multiple EU countries.

Some of the many other things that the EU has done include recover dwindling North Sea fish stocks, provide struggling farmers with subsidies to help them and increase scientific advancement by giving subsidies to universities and companies and facilitating cross-border cooperation and help poorer regions within EU countries with extra funding.


Whilst I acknowledge that there are many problems with the EU including high costs, a bureaucratic system as well as a tendency for a large amount of people from poorer eastern European countries to move to richer western European countries, I personally believe the the UK would be better off staying than leaving even if the EU is in desperate need of reform.

I hoped this has helped you understand

Speaking as a student, the fact that 16% of UK universities funding comes in the form of grants from the EU seems one pretty good reason to want to remain a part of it. In addition, being able to work and study anywhere in Europe is also a pretty attractive advantage.

Evidence is there. You can't be arsed to find it, but you'd believe the fake sh*t spawned by the Brextemists. Like the one about the NHS getting £350mil per week. I'd still like to know the answer to that one.

1) Funding for poorer areas: a lot of Brexit places (Cornwall, Wales, Yorkshire etc) receive huge EU funding yet stupidly voted to Brexit. Good luck on getting the London-centric Tories to take over funding post-Brexit. If they didn't fund you guys before the EU stepped in, why d'you think they would when we Brexit?

2) The immigrants. Leaving the EU will not stop immigration from Syria and Ethiopia, Afghanistan etc.....becoz they're NOT in the EU. Also when we leave all the agreements with EU ends -- especially Le Torquet with France. That means the immigrants currently holed up in refuges in France, Germany, Spain, Italy will be allowed to travel to UK. We'll be getting more immigration, not less. Also if we deport unskilled foreigners will the English get off their butts to do the menial jobs currently done by foreigners - I think not. So these jobs will need to moved abroad as well.

3) Free movement: the free movement of peoples allows skilled staff to come to UK to do specialist jobs. Brexit will send these folks back to Germany etc. who wants them back anyway. Whereas we will be left with skilled jobs without a skilled workforce to do them. Firms will find it easier to move these jobs abroad as well, depriving UK of much needed taxes. London will be worst hit, but it is by no means the only place in UK to be in trouble when we brexit. Ditto scientific research - we will lose funding as well as people without the EU.

3) Travel: currently UK citizens travelling to EU are treated as citizens of the countries they travel to. Say if I go to France I can use their hospitals (w/o taking out holiday insurance), schools, unis as one of them. If I break the law I'm protected by EU law and will be treated the same as them.

4) Residency: moving to another country permanently. I can do this anywhere in EU without losing my UK passport. Brilliant idea! Post-brexit I will have no rights of residence or same legal rights as locals unless I apply for citizenship. Then I'll lose my UK passport. If I then want to move somewhere else, I must start the whole process again.

5) Education: UK students can study in any university in Europe, with their A levels treated the same as qualifications in EU countries. Some uni courses are even free (great if your parents are as skint like mine).

6) Politics: we are stronger in EU than outside. Unless you want to prove me wrong by picking a fight with Russia. We can't even stop one Russian boat illegally crossing our waters, can we honestly tell the whole country to f*ck off? Don't tell me the US will look after us - the US will look after no. 1 (guess who that is), and leave us high and dry. The fact is, the UK is no longer the powerful empire of 1870, and US will be more interested in a relationship with countries that are powerful, more affluent, and influential than us - like China, Russia, India, and..................the EU.

7) Laws: when we leave we won't be able to influence how the EU make its laws and negotiate stuff in our favour, like that Le Torquet treaty.

How about the £8.5 billion net membership payments can provide subsidy?

Firstly how naive do you have to be?!!!! The NHS statement was £350 million COULD be spent on EU....

Hmm you mean like the £350m a week that was going to go towards the NHS? Forgive me if I'm skeptical about the likelihood of that actually happening. I think it's far more likely they'll just raise tuition fees... again.

Firstly how naive do you have to be?!!!! The NHS statement was £350 million COULD be spent on EU, no promise was ever made ffs. What about all the bs statistics from remain like the recession...

1) These areas were sick of losing their culture. Matter of opinion you cannot deny unless you live in these areas... what funding do they receive? Vague claim

2) Did you not hear about Merkel's policies? So we have to accept these migrants do we? Urmm how about no?

3) So we pay more into EU than get back in terms of monetary payments, and yet EU citizens can use our services, effectively pay twice.

4) Same process as everyone else in world stop complaining

5) I would consider studying abroad a luxury tbh, and should we have luxuries when people outside the EU don't?

6) A trump presidency has UK at front of queue, why are we fighting Russia? Russia is fed up of EU and us leaving is a message for them and will ease conflict. Stronger in sense more is better, but when EU is rotting UK from inside, I would say big picture EU is making us weaker.

7) Whole point of leaving is so they can't influence us and we can't influence them in terms of law...