Trump compromised by Russian intelligence, reports say

Interesting how you would talk about a post-truth world when you're the one saying these allegations against Trump, for which there are no pieces of evidence to support, are something we should take seriously.

Trump is an American. He's not Russian smh

There's something about being given media access that makes people go weak at the knees and lose their marbles. (Too many mixed metaphors?) RT handed Assange a satellite TV microphone and now he won't bite the hand that provides it under any circumstances.

There's also the gullbility factor to make one boggle slightly - RT isn't even particularly skilled as propaganda, it's way too obvious - Fox do a better job, as do Chinese TV - yet it's apparently sufficient to overwhelm many a Trot and turn them into tools of the Kremlin. Makes one wonder how bad things would get if they were actually good at it.

Oh I don't know... having a conventional conservative as president rather than a Russian shill?

He's in hiding now because he knows that if he's right, the Russian intelligence services will kill him if they have a shot.

The difference between the miserable right and the sensible left is that out of partisan tribalism, you reject these allegations without knowing their veracity, and in so doing you're willing to take the risk that Trump is a Russian agent to gratify your own pathetic need not to admit you might be wrong.

We are not saying the allegations are true, but that they are so serious, have such profound implications if true, that they must be investigated.

Your bad faith is demonstrated by your opposition to such a course.

Were you confused by my comment? I'm happy to express it in simpler terms?

Said he's a Russian shill, he's not.

I don't see how that's a gain from a liberal point of view. Whatever Trump's faults, he's clearly better for many of the things near and dear to liberals than Pence. In any case, I wouldn't describe Pence as a conventional conservative - he's no Paul Ryan.

It was in FBI Director Comey's hands, that's why liberals are furious with him. He happily disclosed investigations into Clinton that were based on nothing, while blocking disclosure (to this day) of investigations (that we know exist) into Trump's Russia connections.

False equivalence. Pizzagate is clearly ********, whereas the reason the Trump dossier was taken seriously by the US intelligence community was because of its source (a highly respected former MI6 case officer who rose high in the Secret Intelligence Service and is considered a credible figure)

It's pretty obvious why. They identify with Russia more than they identify with the West, just as in the Cold War there were commies who identified more with the Soviet Union than they did with the West.

So you don't think Western civilisation is clearly morally superior to all others?

Are you denying that Hillary used a private email server?

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Said he's a Russian shill, he's not.

Pissgate is apparently valid and legitimate criticism

whereas Pizzagate is apparently all a cruel lie

Am I denying Hillary used a private email server? What is the implications of her using a private email server? She didn't break the law.

And for the FBI to obsess over Clinton doing something that is legal while failing to investigate the possibility that Trump is a Russian agent is laughable. This is why the alt-right has no credibility; their sense of priorities and proportion is psychotically out-of-balance.



"Criticism"? Is English your second language or are you confused about the nature of the document? Perhaps it speaks to your own psychopathologies that you focus on the golden shower element, one of the least interesting disclosures, rather than the far more serious aspects that purport to disclose direct, illegal relationships between Trump and the Kremlin.



You are confused. Pizzagate is made-up. Anyone who believes it is a moron who probably has mental health problems.

The Trump dossier, unlike pizzagate, is not a conspiracy theory. It is a document in which a highly respected former MI6 officer discloses what he has been told by sources he cultivated in Russia. The document should form the basis for further investigation; at present, nobody except Trump and the Russian government knows the truth of that.

You are dismissing that out of hand because you are emotionally invested in Trump, and you are placing your emotional equanimity over the national interest in determining the truth of these allegations through a thorough investigation. It's sad that you are so obsessively partisan that you just don't care about the national interest anymore

The claim is that the Russians possess tapes in which Trump is engaging in water-sports with prostitutes and hence cannot be trusted to act in American interests, it's clear you also have a lack of sincerity to match your lack of respect.

Which if true, is incredibly serious and if not provably untrue is incredibly divisive.

Do I think it's true? Not sure.

Do I think any photos will leak? Not a chance

It's not really serious, I find pissplay a bit odd but if we didn't live in a world of social conservative bigots, nobody would care.

Am I denying Hillary used a private email server? What is the implications of her using a private email server? She didn't break the law.

And for the FBI to obsess over Clinton doing something that is legal while failing to investigate the possibility that Trump is a Russian agent is laughable. This is why the alt-right has no credibility; their sense of priorities and proportion is psychotically out-of-balance.