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Reply 20

gr8wizard10

what's a good reliable site that can do this for me?

Reply 21

gr8wizard10

Original post by CarysJSLewis

This is the most stupid thing i've seen today. What are these people going to do when they leave university and get a job in that field? They most likely haven't gone to lectures, haven't done any of their own work, and have basically got into debt for a degree which they know nothing about. Doesn't seem like they get the last laugh here.

9.5/10 the **** you do in uni is irrelevant academic jargon. for instance, i study a degree in finance.. i have done 6 months + experience in the field of ib & #1 everything is taught on the job and our degree is just theoritical nonsense

Reply 22

username2885068

Original post by gr8wizard10

So you're judging every single degree you can do at university on your experience?

Reply 23

gr8wizard10

Original post by CarysJSLewis

So you're judging every single degree you can do at university on your experience?

your assumptions yield value

Reply 24

username1751857

Original post by mobbsy91

If I knew I wouldn't be caught, and it would give me a mark better than I could get for sure, then I'd be pretty tempted... However, given the risk of being caught, and then also that the mark might be worse than what I can and have achieved, I just don't think it's worth it... Quite frankly, if you're going to do this, then why the **** would you want to waste around £40k on going to uni...

PRSOM

Reply 25

999tigger

Thy ought to make students do more vivas. They also ought to make it a criminal offence or unlawful to offer such a service.

Reply 26

hezzlington

Original post by 999tigger

Thy ought to make students do more vivas. They also ought to make it a criminal offence or unlawful to offer such a service.

Im sure submitting such work for your thesis could be illegal? Imagine if it was published

Reply 27

ForgetMe

Never, I'm not going to learn anything if I did not put an effort in it.

Reply 28

999tigger

Original post by hezzlington

Im sure submitting such work for your thesis could be illegal? Imagine if it was published

It would get you professional censure. I'm talking about the people who provide the service.

Reply 29

Maths is Life

Original post by discobish

Research carried out by the UK’s leading experts in essay cheating has revealed over 20,000 students are purchasing tailor-made essays online via “essay mills”, in order to evade plagiarism software and cheat their way to top-class degrees.

Following the release of new figures from two of the UK’s largest essay-writing services, it was revealed that more than a third of these students were enrolled at Russell Group and Oxbridge universities :shock:

The full article about 'contract cheating' can be found here.

Have you/would you ever buy a professionally-written essay or dissertation?

Or maybe you know people who have at your university?

Do you think the pressure of higher-achieving universities can make students feel they need such services to get through?

Lol no one cares about Russel Group Unis

Reply 30

epsilondelta

I would never do it myself but to be honest I would probably write essays for other people to use because I am a poor student and I like writing

Reply 31

-Simon-

Original post by cambio wechsel

Is it, though? Suppose that you're a 22 year old Chinese student completing a one year masters in the UK because that is the done thing for the indulged offspring of China's newly moneyed middle class. Spending a year abroad is going to significantly improve your English, though perhaps not to the extent that you'll be able to write an MSc dissertation, and you will meet a lot of other moneyed Chinese who will become part of your social and business network when back in China. Spending time actually writing the bloody thesis, even if you could, would eat into time better spent visiting the Cotswolds and Bicester Designer Village and working on developing that network. Your boss when you land a job in Shanghai or Shenzhen or wherever won't himself be able to speak English or anyway knows the game for himself having played it.

Where, sensibly, is the very terrible harm? These kids spend fortunes, support the university and the local area, are model visitors, and are not going to use their ill-gotten certificates to compete with Brits for jobs. For many of them the money is as nothing and they're certainly not incurring any debt. Meanwhile, bright Britons are supported twice: with the money secured by the university, that funds the providing of bursaries and so forth, and with their freelance jobs at the essay mill.

This is a very lovely argument, thought provoking on a subject I think the majority had made their own mind up about.

Thank you.

Reply 32

Josb

I was tempted to work for one of these compagnies, but the rates were atrocious.

Reply 33

Big_Jon

The ones who do buy it should be marched through London with a sign around them saying what they brought and how much for and the hrad working students who got their marks through hard work throw rotton fruit at them. You need to enforce the fact if you want to achieve you do it through hard work and putting the hours in, and definently not buying your way to the top. If you can't do the course then maybe your swimming in deeper water then you thought.

Reply 34

ETbuymilkandeggs

good way to make money, actually hmmm

Reply 35

Yaboi

Original post by CarysJSLewis

90% of the stuff you learn in your degree is basically useless unless you go back into academia.

Reply 36

username2885068

Original post by Yaboi

90% of the stuff you learn in your degree is basically useless unless you go back into academia.

As I said to someone else earlier, are you speaking for every single degree on offer at every single university based on your experience alone?

Reply 37

ThePricklyOne

Original post by randj

You would have to be desperate to do that. For one thing, Leaving aside the ethics, I would not trust the guy doing a 'tailor made essay' to actually do that. I think it more likely that someone doing that kind of work will plagiarise it and that would mean I would be found out and expelled for that

Unless you are the son of an evil dictator who has made a large donation, in which case the uni will have one of their staff write it for you. One reason I did not apply to LSE

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8929365/Gaddafis-son-paid-LSE-tutor-4000-per-month-for-help-with-his-homework.html

That is so true.

I know 2 people who went into RG uni after their parents gave a big donation. They shouldn't have got in because their grades weren't good enough despite getting private tuition. Once in, they continued to have private tuition, but it was obvious during the seminars/discussions/ group work that they had no idea of even the basics of the course.

And yes, the uni had staff to 'sort out' these 2 and they managed to get their degrees.

US Ivy League unis are notorious handing out places and passes for bribes.

Reply 38

randj

Another recent story, it turns out one of Trumps advisers has been done for plagiarism. She did her PhD like 20 years ago when her chances of being caught were low, when the software to identify this had not been invented. But now that it exists, reporters are running the old public dissertations of famous people, to try and shame them, through the program. Could be embarrassing for lots of people, like how drug testing gets better every year

Reply 39

Voi

What about the exams though? It may raise suspicions if you consistently score a first in your written work, but continually scrape a pass in your exams...