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Original post by eg09
Yes it is true that we could go to uni elsewhere and then hope to do a masters at Oxbridge. But when you have your heart set on doing a degree there it's hard to just tell yourself that it doesn't really matter and that you'll still have the same opportunities.


If you really love the course (not just the prestige), ace your exams, work on your speaking skills, fix the weaker elements of your app and basically work your ass off. Then you'll have a set of good results so you can choose whether to reapply and take a gap year or not. You can try again (and people have been successful trying again post-results) but once you've applied twice and find out the result of your app, it's probably best to just let it be.

BUT if you want to try again, knowing where you went wrong, you can only do that by getting great grades!!!
Original post by eg09
No they don't, a degree from Oxbridge almost guarantees you a good job. I think I might actually take a year out and reapply.


I do understand how you feel but a little time out may give you a little more perspective. Good unis such as Imperial, LSE, Surrey, Warwick ( the list goes on) have excellent reputations for a reason. Trust me, they are academically challenging and many of their graduates go on to postgrad at Oxbridge and vice versa.

In terms of job prospects, many factors are considered in the job market not least your interpersonal skills. By a good job I assume you mean salary? ( I understand good jobs mean different thing to different people). Last time I looked a linguistics graduate from Cambridge had an average starting salary of approximately £17,000 (from memory). Hardly earth shattering.

So don't rely on Oxbridge or any uni for that matter to be a golden ticket. They aren't, many other factors come into play in the job market. Your reasoning should be your love of the subject and the course on offer. Best wishes😀
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Original post by auburnstar
If you really love the course (not just the prestige), ace your exams, work on your speaking skills, fix the weaker elements of your app and basically work your ass off. Then you'll have a set of good results so you can choose whether to reapply and take a gap year or not. You can try again (and people have been successful trying again post-results) but once you've applied twice and find out the result of your app, it's probably best to just let it be.

BUT if you want to try again, knowing where you went wrong, you can only do that by getting great grades!!!


I don't feel like a can fix my weaknesses. I applied for economics but only decided that I wanted to do it at the end of year 12, so I hadn't chosen to do further maths which a lot of economics candidates have. I picked up an AS further maths this year, but I couldn't do the full thing as I haven't finished A level maths so the timetabling clashed.
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Original post by 210555
I do understand how you feel but a little time out may give you a little more perspective. Good unis such as Imperial, LSE, Surrey, Warwick ( the list goes on) have excellent reputations for a reason. Trust me, they are academically challenging and many of their graduates go on to postgrad at Oxbridge and vice versa.

In terms of job prospects, many factors are considered in the job market not least your interpersonal skills. By a good job I assume you mean salary? ( I understand good jobs mean different thing to different people). Last time I looked a linguistics graduate from Cambridge had an average starting salary of approximately £17,000 (from memory). Hardly earth shattering.

So don't rely on Oxbridge or any uni for that matter to be a golden ticket. They aren't, many other factors come into play in the job market. Your reasoning should be your love of the subject and the course on offer. Best wishes😀


I know they're good universities but not quite the same as Cambridge. It'll surely be harder to do a postgrad at Cambridge if you didn't do undergrad there.

I applied for economics, so by a good job I meant success and salary I guess, just being content that I've achieved what I can. I probably would have been fine if I hadn't applied in the first place, it's just knowing that you're not good enough, no matter how hard you try. I know that Oxbridge doesn't mean you're going to be successful in the future, but it's certainly a good starting point.
Original post by Gold-Confetti
Ahh well, looks like it's not going to be today. No post, and no email. Best get set for another day of waiting tomorrow.
Bit ridiculous really, it's only been 4 days, but it feels like forever 😥


Yeah, nothing on my end, either... I'm slightly sad to be honest, was hoping I'd come out of my mock this evening and see the magic email, but alas, nothing.

I'm hoping it's a letter now; sent today to arrive tomorrow... I may die if I wait much longer:sad:
Original post by eg09
I know they're good universities but not quite the same as Cambridge. It'll surely be harder to do a postgrad at Cambridge if you didn't do undergrad there.

I applied for economics, so by a good job I meant success and salary I guess, just being content that I've achieved what I can. I probably would have been fine if I hadn't applied in the first place, it's just knowing that you're not good enough, no matter how hard you try. I know that Oxbridge doesn't mean you're going to be successful in the future, but it's certainly a good starting point.



For those who started economics Oct 2016 there were 1,183 applicants and 189 offers made. Does that mean the 994 rejected weren't good enough? Seriously stop dwelling on this if you can. Maybe speak to a teacher at school who can advise you. It will have been just as competitive this year and will be next year, there are no guarantees if you reapply with A*A*A*. Bear this in mind.
Original post by 210555
For those who started economics Oct 2016 there were 1,183 applicants and 189 offers made. Does that mean the 994 rejected weren't good enough? Seriously stop dwelling on this if you can. Maybe speak to a teacher at school who can advise you. It will have been just as competitive this year and will be next year, there are no guarantees if you reapply with A*A*A*. Bear this in mind.


To reiterate this, my school had two economics applicants this year, one of my best friends and I. We are both equally qualified on paper (if anything he might be slightly more due to him not screwing up C4 and me having a bad day) and he felt his interview went better than mine. We've both broadly the same extra-curricular, I've done a bit more debating and public speaking but he's done public facing work with customers too. I can possibly show my passion for economics slightly more than he can, just due to differences in personality, but all these factors are so minor that they're essentially meaningless at this level.
I got in. He didn't. That doesn't mean I'm better than him. It means that in a field of hundreds of incredibly good applicants, you eventually reach a level where it's almost impossible to distinguish one good candidate from another on merit. They look at factors, and make a human decision. Of course, you can improve your chances by getting good grades, being confident and passionate about the subject, but no one is guaranteed a place. There's an element of luck, and I'm sorry you got the worse end of it, but anyone who is so hardworking to get the interview stage is of the same calibre, so onwards and upwards wherever you end up

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Original post by SteamboatMickey
Had a lovely little chat with a certain Admissions Tutor


A*A*A with an A* in History :biggrin: OFFER!


Lurking parent here who has been gunning for you (I gave you my son's pool interview experience on the old thread). His offer was like yours, with another A added on (NatSci). As I told you then, finished first year on a first, so here's hoping you continue to follow his pathway. Very, very well done. You deserve it.


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Original post by eg09
No they don't, a degree from Oxbridge almost guarantees you a good job. I think I might actually take a year out and reapply.


One of the most incompetent people I ever worked with had a First and a postgrad degree from Cambridge. Still had a good job though... :s-smilie:
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Original post by vinnie99
To reiterate this, my school had two economics applicants this year, one of my best friends and I. We are both equally qualified on paper (if anything he might be slightly more due to him not screwing up C4 and me having a bad day) and he felt his interview went better than mine. We've both broadly the same extra-curricular, I've done a bit more debating and public speaking but he's done public facing work with customers too. I can possibly show my passion for economics slightly more than he can, just due to differences in personality, but all these factors are so minor that they're essentially meaningless at this level.
I got in. He didn't. That doesn't mean I'm better than him. It means that in a field of hundreds of incredibly good applicants, you eventually reach a level where it's almost impossible to distinguish one good candidate from another on merit. They look at factors, and make a human decision. Of course, you can improve your chances by getting good grades, being confident and passionate about the subject, but no one is guaranteed a place. There's an element of luck, and I'm sorry you got the worse end of it, but anyone who is so hardworking to get the interview stage is of the same calibre, so onwards and upwards wherever you end up

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Yeah I suppose luck does play a part, which is more annoying than if I knew what I really needed to work on. I just don't feel like I'll ever be happy at another university. It wasn't just the reputation of Cambridge I liked, it was also the course and I loved the place. I suppose I got used to thinking I had a chance of living there.
Original post by bethipayne
Yeah, nothing on my end, either... I'm slightly sad to be honest, was hoping I'd come out of my mock this evening and see the magic email, but alas, nothing.

I'm hoping it's a letter now; sent today to arrive tomorrow... I may die if I wait much longer:sad:


Ahh this is so frustrating. But at least if both of us haven't received anything, we're not alone haha!

That's what I'm thinking now too. Makes sense really, if they made the decisions on Saturday then they will likely have posted this morning to arrive tomorrow. The scary thing about a letter is that you basically know from the seal on the front whether you've been rejected or not 🙈. Praying I never see Downing's seal again in my life lol.

Hopefully we'll be put out of our misery tomorrow 😂
Original post by eg09
I know they're good universities but not quite the same as Cambridge. It'll surely be harder to do a postgrad at Cambridge if you didn't do undergrad there.

I applied for economics, so by a good job I meant success and salary I guess, just being content that I've achieved what I can. I probably would have been fine if I hadn't applied in the first place, it's just knowing that you're not good enough, no matter how hard you try. I know that Oxbridge doesn't mean you're going to be successful in the future, but it's certainly a good starting point.


For econ, a university like LSE would pretty much give you the same guarantee of great salary and job prospects as oxbridge - if not more as it focuses a lot more heavily on preparing for the work place and commercialising their students.
oxbridge is NOT everything
Original post by Gold-Confetti
Ahh this is so frustrating. But at least if both of us haven't received anything, we're not alone haha!

That's what I'm thinking now too. Makes sense really, if they made the decisions on Saturday then they will likely have posted this morning to arrive tomorrow. The scary thing about a letter is that you basically know from the seal on the front whether you've been rejected or not 🙈. Praying I never see Downing's seal again in my life lol.

Hopefully we'll be put out of our misery tomorrow 😂


wait does this mean if we are rejected we receive a letter from our original college, even though we have had an interview. I just assumed it would be from our "new" pooled college because they've now taken full responsibility of us with another interview...
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Original post by 210555
For those who started economics Oct 2016 there were 1,183 applicants and 189 offers made. Does that mean the 994 rejected weren't good enough? Seriously stop dwelling on this if you can. Maybe speak to a teacher at school who can advise you. It will have been just as competitive this year and will be next year, there are no guarantees if you reapply with A*A*A*. Bear this in mind.


But isn't it more depressing to think that you were good enough but just didn't get in? I will definitely think it over before deciding to take a year out a reapply, I know that it'll be just as hard to get in. I need to decide whether it's worth trying and facing rejection again.
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Original post by somebodyelse98
For econ, a university like LSE would pretty much give you the same guarantee of great salary and job prospects as oxbridge - if not more as it focuses a lot more heavily on preparing for the work place and commercialising their students.
oxbridge is NOT everything


I didn't apply to LSE as I visited it but didn't like the London uni experience, perhaps that was a mistake. Oxbridge feels like everything after you've invested so much in the process, even if it isn't.
Original post by eg09
But isn't it more depressing to think that you were good enough but just didn't get in? I will definitely think it over before deciding to take a year out a reapply, I know that it'll be just as hard to get in. I need to decide whether it's worth trying and facing rejection again.


Unfortunately that's life. They have to reject lots of strong candidates each year cos they purely do not have enough spaces. Take your time to decide whether it's worth reapplying or not. You don't even have to make such a decision until after results day when you know what grades you have.
Original post by Gold-Confetti
Ahh this is so frustrating. But at least if both of us haven't received anything, we're not alone haha!

That's what I'm thinking now too. Makes sense really, if they made the decisions on Saturday then they will likely have posted this morning to arrive tomorrow. The scary thing about a letter is that you basically know from the seal on the front whether you've been rejected or not 🙈. Praying I never see Downing's seal again in my life lol.

Hopefully we'll be put out of our misery tomorrow 😂


Oh gosh that's completely true about the seal - I hadn't even thought of that!:cry2: Either way, even if it's a rejection at least the waiting will be over... That's kind of my main focus at the moment:laugh:

Fingers crossed that tomorrow's the day that the two of us (and anyone else out there still waiting) get put out of our misery (and hopefully both get offers!!):crossedf:
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Original post by NeverLucky
Unfortunately that's life. They have to reject lots of strong candidates each year cos they purely do not have enough spaces. Take your time to decide whether it's worth reapplying or not. You don't even have to make such a decision until after results day when you know what grades you have.


I will, perhaps I won't feel so emotional about it in a few months time. Ah that's good, because if I don't get the right grades then there would be no point of reapplying at all.
Guys my ucas just updated omfg
I didn't get an offer.

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