Police Taser race relations group founder in the face.

What was so racist about some guy getting shot with a taser?

Why? because he is black? What if a white guy got shot with a taser, you probably wouldn't call that racist.

You don't even know whether race was involved in him getting shot.

The Guardian video really doesn't help his case.

I thought you were a proper libertarian.

I thought you were a proper libertarian.

(he "refused to give his name" )

- The suspect tries to walk away, but the police man gently signals he is not being given permission to do so.

- The police woman then says: "I've asked you to remain calm" in a clearly non-threatening and polite manner.

Does not telling the police your name justify being tasered? Obviously not, but combine that with getting a bit shouty and trying to leave and you can start to see why the police might be suspicious.

Is it not possible to engage in a discussion within a certain framework of rules whilst simultaneously not actually subscribing to that framework?

Slightly annoyed? Maybe. Aggressive? No chance. The police are doing a job and if they have stopped me it must be for a good reason. I may dispute that reason, and it may turn out to be a reason based on bad information, but I understand the importance of the police and the dynamics of my relationship with them if I ever were to be approached by them.


The police are perfectly entitled to be "aggressive" (in so far as you define a police officer "trying to arrest" someone as "aggressive" ) , but suspects are not. As I have mentioned, it is not a relationship of equals.


On balance - despite the man's aggressive actions, attempts to flee and non-compliance - I would probably agree that tasering him was not strictly necessary. However, I understand why they did so - he was refusing to comply and attempting to flee.


What is the relevance of this?


I never argued that he did assault the police officers. Besides, obviously they would drop the charges even if he had assaulted them - they're getting bad enough press already.


Slightly retarded of you to assume I would be referring to that video (which wasn't mentioned anywhere in this thread until you posted it), instead of the one in the OP, but I digress.

Shall we go through the first 5 seconds (or however long you think necessary to prove your assertion that the police were the initial aggressors) of this video too?

As is his legal right

Is matching the description of a suspect and refusing to give his name grounds for arrest? (I'm asking this is good faith.)

He wasn't being aggressive. The accusing way they approached him was wrong and he refused to be addressed that way. He simply tried to walk back into his home and they tasered him.
How the hell do you justify that?

As this is the 2nd time he has been arrested for the mistaken identity I would say not. He won compensation for the first time, so clearly that arrest was wrong.

Was the successful claim due only to the wrongful arrest or were there additional aggravating circumstances?

I know - sometimes the police get things completely and utterly wrong, and this was one of those cases. I wonder if the police would like it if they got tasered when they tried walking back into their house?!

Mis-use of weapons - the police themselves should be charged with assault and get locked up for it.

It is the second time Mr Adunbi has been mistaken for the same man.
In 2009 he won a wrongful arrest case against Avon and Somerset Police and was awarded compensation.

He wasn't being aggressive. The accusing way they approached him was wrong and he refused to be addressed that way. He simply tried to walk back into his home and they tasered him.
How the hell do you justify that?

I would happily screw the police, but you would need to know more such whether Mr Adunbi was wrongly imprisoned and for how long, whether reasonable care was taken to ascertain the identity of the man in question (surely they know the address of the suspect they actually wish to arrest) or what loss if any was suffered as a result of the wrongful arrest.

Did you watch the video?
It's clear the police were the initial aggressors. Even the neighbours that videoed it said so.
Lol run away? He was walking back to his house. You really couldn't have watched the same video as me because he wasn't causing a scene or being as agressive they were.

I know - sometimes the police get things completely and utterly wrong, and this was one of those cases. I wonder if the police would like it if they got tasered when they tried walking back into their house?!

Mis-use of weapons - the police themselves should be charged with assault and get locked up for it.

Idiot trying to make a point gets hassle

meanwhile most normal people realise that a few minutes to allow the Police to deal with the relevant inquriies is a small price to pay for living in a developed country which is relatively safe...