GRAFFITI - art or vandalism?

Failed "artists" who think they're edgy by spraypainting things they saw in a movie but have no idea what it means.

100% vandalism, should be arrested.

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user 42005

Definitely vandalism.

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Original post by the bear

it is just a sad way for talentless young people to express their dull personalities whilst risking a criminal record :h:

You sound very judgemental. The tags ive seens recently have been incredible. Lighten up a bit.

Original post by Pikachū

Failed "artists" who think they're edgy by spraypainting things they saw in a movie but have no idea what it means.

100% vandalism, should be arrested.

There was a guy whose sister had been killed by a drunk driver, so he spray painted a gigantic mural of him and her hugging and crying because he couldnt do so again.

Graffiti is culture. It is artistic expression. From the ****ty scrawled tags to the aforementioned mural. People were "graffitiing" before the first century AD.

The amount of judgemental ****** who'll gush over a jackson pollock or picasso, when you can find just as much range and expression from alleys in every city.

Said it once and I'll say it again, people like you should lighten up. Live a little. Go and actually see murals and works. people like you would be surprised at how many people are actually commissioned for their work.

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Original post by SonoLuma

You sound very judgemental. The tags ive seens recently have been incredible. Lighten up a bit.

There was a guy whose sister had been killed by a drunk driver, so he spray painted a gigantic mural of him and her hugging and crying because he couldnt do so again.

Graffiti is culture. It is artistic expression. From the sh**ty scrawled tags to the aforementioned mural. People were "graffitiing" before the first century AD.

The amount of judgemental pr**ks who'll gush over a jackson pollock or picasso, when you can find just as much range and expression from alleys in every city.

Said it once and I'll say it again, people like you should lighten the f**k up. Live a little. Go and actually see murals and works. people like you would be surprised at how many people are actually commissioned for their work.

There is nothing "judgemental" about wanting criminals to be arrested.

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ddrrzzeerr

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If it is not your wall and you haven't been given permission, it is vandalism.

I suppose it is possible to be both at the same time and the taxi above may fit into that category.

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That'sGreat

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Original post by SonoLuma

a jackson pollock or picasso, when you can find just as much range and expression from alleys in every city.

Yeah, except people look at Picassos paintings which have been drawn on a canvas he's paid for, not someone's wall that didn't want it there. Sure, do it if so eone pays you to or if you have been told you can, but doing otherwise is illegal, and is vandalism? How would you like it if someone smeared elephant **** over your front door? You'd hat wit wouldn't you, but why? After all, a painting with elephant **** sold for 2.3 million. It's fine to say, sure, let them vandalise people's property, though that quickly spchanges when it becomes your property. The law is there for a reason, don't ****ing complain. I bet you're one of those people that agrees with the squatters rights laws as well.

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Original post by Pikachū

There is nothing "judgemental" about wanting criminals to be arrested.

Hah, Yes there is.

Which is why youre lumping people who have been PAID for graffiti, and those who sneak onto tracks to scrawl "dave wos ere" into the same group... criminals.

Both are graffiti, both are not "criminal acts." Its funny to see peoples opinions on stuff where it is clear they have no comprehension at how wide a range of culture there lies beyond their short sighted busybody eyes.

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Original post by SonoLuma

Hah, Yes there is.

Which is why youre lumping people who have been PAID for graffiti, and those who sneak onto tracks to scrawl "dave wos ere" into the same group... criminals.

Both are graffiti, both are not "criminal acts." Its funny to see peoples opinions on stuff where it is clear they have no comprehension at how wide a range of culture there lies beyond their short sighted busybody eyes.

Who said I'm talking about people who were paid? Where did OP say paid graffiti?

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SinsNotTragedies

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Lol the Chris Brown album was definitely vandalism to my ears

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Thanks, it's not often that i genuinely get indignant on behalf of others work, but there are some murals and works on the side of walls that have literally taken my breath away, that no art gallery has ever done before nor since.

People who have lost their loves, people who have had their lives taken away, so much emotion and so much worth and culture, is reduced to "criminality" when curmudgeonly busybodies forget that life is about living.

(and the works I speak of are mostly commissioned, negating any argument people have about "criminality"... Its like people saying they dont like "hiphop" and then say they love bonobo lol)

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Original post by Pikachū

Who said I'm talking about people who were paid? Where did OP say paid graffiti?

So now you are just splitting hairs.

And youve missed my point. Whether it is paid for or not, it is graffiti.

Criminality does not instantly negate all artistic merit.

Edit: just looked over my reply and I forgot to mention. The OP didnt need to say PAID graffiti, they asked if graffiti is art or vandalism and graffiti is a much more diverse and widely ranged medium than people think.

Just like my hiphop analogy, try saying to someone who is into hiphop that hiphop and rap are the same thing.

(edited 7 years ago)

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Original post by SonoLuma

So now you are just splitting hairs.

And youve missed my point. Whether it is paid for or not, it is graffiti.

Criminality does not instantly negate all artistic merit.

You are doing that. I don't see what you're failing to understand; if it's your own property or the owner of the property allows you to graffiti, then obv it's legal.

If it's not yours and you do not have permission from the owner then it is a crime and you should be arrested. Quite simple if I'm honest. Just because it looks nice doesn't mean it's not a crime lol.

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