Article 50 decision imminent! Parliament could vote.

After Brexit we will be able, legally, to prevent people from immigrating here. Both EU and non EU citizens. Who comes here to live, we can decide as a society.

As things stand we cannot do this for EU nationals. Do you accept this?

Brexit was a bottom up revolution, of the poor and oppressed. The left behind, those whom the metropolitan elite thought they could tell what was best for them.

I accept that position, but what I am asserting is that a large proportion of Brexit supporters (though not necessarily Brexiteers-Michael Gove was explicit that immigration could rise) voted to reduce immigration not merely place the decision to increase immigration in the hands of politicians in making trade deals.

Furthermore this is a one time exercise of sovereignty in the same way as joining the EU. We exercised our sovereignty to join the EEC in 1973 and Parliament is likely to exercise that sovereignty in 2017 to give notice of withdrawal. In the same way we will exercise our sovereignty to sign a trade deal. Once signed that sovereignty will be suspended until we exercise it to withdraw from that trade deal. One cannot sign an agreement, maintain that agreement is in force and binding on the other party, but reserve the right to ignore the terms of the agreement oneself.

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That is where the inchoate anger came from, so effectively channeled by Leave. . Poor working class communities being culturally transformed in less than a decade, after the accession of the Eastern European countries.

And that is where I am saying they will comprehensively stuffed

Even Farage, who poses as an ordinary bloke, is a former city trader with extensive property and who lives permanently abroad, married to a non-British wife.

We will see. Maybe. But they were stuffed anyway.

They would not have been as poor as they are going to be.

The ones who are going to shafted. The ones who though there would be less immigration:-


Theresa May and Donald Trump to hold talks on trade deal that cuts tariffs and allows workers to move between the US and UK
Daily Telegraph
Britain must relax immigration rules for Australians if it wants a free trade deal, says high commissioner to UK
The Independent
Theresa May urged to accept more skilled Indian workers to help trade deal
The Guardian
The environment secretary says she is "absolutely committed" to ensuring that British farmers have access to migrant workers after Brexit.
BBC
In other words the UK intends to exercise its sovereignty, and of course that is what the Brexiteers said it was about, sovereignty not numbers of immigrants, to let more folk in as long as they are not from the hated EU.

Why would any 'Brexiteer' care about immigration from Australia? They are a Commonwealth country with a culture that is pretty much a carbon copy of England inhabited by British descendants for the most part.

Could be wrong of course, this sort of thing is not my strength area, but I believe that is called a counterfactual statement.

Theresa May is a fuken idiot if she thought she could bypass a parliamentary vote. Who does she think she is.

Get ready for Visa application forms from every EU country as well, not to mention arbitrary blocks because for example there simply aren't enough customs people in the country to cover the ports, so they will periodically have to shut the Channel Tunnel, Gatwick, etc.

The pantomime continues.

This is a totally made-up issue.

I don't think you are right. Can anyone help?

What do you call a logical statement that can neither be proved true nor false?