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Does Dairy affect skin?

Cause spots?

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Original post by emerald7770
Cause spots?


Seems it could at least contribute in some cases. There's certainly enough info on google to suggest it could. I guess it's best for you to look at the info yourself and decide if you think it is a factor for you (if that's why you're asking). Here's one link I found that says it does... http://www.clearskinforever.net/milk-acne-does-milk-cause-acne/
It seems a suggestion for solving acne caused by dairy is to cut out dairy (no surprise there). If you are going to consider anything like cutting dairy out of you diet, please approach it logically. Think about what you will need to do to still get all you need from your diet, and treat it as a trial to start with. Keep a record of your acne severity before you try cutting out dairy and for a while after you cut out dairy- maybe even take pictures- and compare your findings. If you don't notice much difference, it's probably not worth it.

Anyway, hope that helps. :smile:
The link above provided is rubbish. It is a commercial enterprise and has no scientific or factual credibility.

There is no scientific evidence to support a claim that dairy products affect the skin. Period.
Original post by Reality Check
The link above provided is rubbish. It is a commercial enterprise and has no scientific or factual credibility.

There is no scientific evidence to support a claim that dairy products affect the skin. Period.


I watched a video of a girl and she said cutting dairy out of her life caused her spots to go?? and people in the comments were like "shes not lying" idk? I want to try it but i eat and drink dairy 24/7. pretty hard to cut it out
Original post by Kindred
Seems it could at least contribute in some cases. There's certainly enough info on google to suggest it could. I guess it's best for you to look at the info yourself and decide if you think it is a factor for you (if that's why you're asking). Here's one link I found that says it does... http://www.clearskinforever.net/milk-acne-does-milk-cause-acne/
It seems a suggestion for solving acne caused by dairy is to cut out dairy (no surprise there). If you are going to consider anything like cutting dairy out of you diet, please approach it logically. Think about what you will need to do to still get all you need from your diet, and treat it as a trial to start with. Keep a record of your acne severity before you try cutting out dairy and for a while after you cut out dairy- maybe even take pictures- and compare your findings. If you don't notice much difference, it's probably not worth it.

Anyway, hope that helps. :smile:


Thanks so much! I'll try that alone to see if it actually works. Maybe for a month??? :smile:
Original post by emerald7770
I watched a video of a girl and she said cutting dairy out of her life caused her spots to go?? and people in the comments were like "shes not lying" idk? I want to try it but i eat and drink dairy 24/7. pretty hard to cut it out


Please note what you've just said - 'you watched a video...and people in the comments'.

A random girl posting a random video with other random people making comments doesn't mean that it's fact, or based in any sort of scientific evidence. I understand that you're probably young, but it's really important to be able to clearly define between social media and evidence-based health research. :smile:

Please don't automatically believe what you see in videos or social media comments. Use credible sources such as the NHS or gov.uk website to find out the correct information.
Original post by Reality Check
Please note what you've just said - 'you watched a video...and people in the comments'.

A random girl posting a random video with other random people making comments doesn't mean that it's fact, or based in any sort of scientific evidence. I understand that you're probably young, but it's really important to be able to clearly define between social media and evidence-based health research. :smile:

Please don't automatically believe what you see in videos or social media comments. Use credible sources such as the NHS or gov.uk website to find out the correct information.


Okay is this scientific enough?
Most of the cows used in farming are actually pregnant cows. The hormones such as progesterone and insulin growth factors make their way into the milk, when we consume the milk, it leads to increased levels of inflammation, skin breakdown, aging and acne in many people.
Original post by emerald7770
Okay is this scientific enough?
Most of the cows used in farming are actually pregnant cows. The hormones such as progesterone and insulin growth factors make their way into the milk, when we consume the milk, it leads to increased levels of inflammation, skin breakdown, aging and acne in many people.


No.

What levels of these hormones and IGF are found in the milk?

What evidence is there that ingestion of these hormones is harmful to human health - what mechanisms are involved?

How does ingestion of these substances lead to the outcomes you quote - inflammation, skin breakdown (!), aging and acne? What evidence is there to support these outlandish claims?

Without being able to support these points with credible scientific evidence, there is no reason to believe your claims. But you're not bothered about all that are you?
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Original post by Reality Check
No.

What levels of these hormones and IGF are found in the milk?

What evidence is there that ingestion of these hormones is harmful to human health - what mechanisms are involved?

How does ingestion of these substances lead to the outcomes you quote - inflammation, skin breakdown (!), aging and acne? What evidence is there to support these outlandish claims?

Without being able to support these points with credible scientific evidence, there is no reason to believe your claims. But you're not bothered about all that are you?


Yes i am bothered about this.
Original post by emerald7770
Yes i am bothered about this.


Good - I'm really pleased that you are :smile:
Original post by Reality Check
Good - I'm really pleased that you are :smile:


Are you actually pleased or are you just being sarcastic?
Original post by emerald7770
Thanks so much! I'll try that alone to see if it actually works. Maybe for a month??? :smile:


Yeah that sounds like a good amount of time.
I would like to mention though that I think milk is probably an unlikely cause. I believe milk is filtered extensively before being sold to remove the stuff people suggest would cause acne. I would do some research first to make sure it isn't just people making silly things up.
You might also like to try natural (or medical) remedies before you remove dairy from your diet to see if a simple things could fix it (even if the milk is causing it).
I've heard sugar scrub is good and have had positive experience personally with teatree exfoliant (you can get it at body shop).

Good luck with whatever you try though. :smile:
Original post by emerald7770
Are you actually pleased or are you just being sarcastic?


No, I'm not being sarcastic! I'm genuinely pleased that you're going to question what you read/hear - I'm a scientist. :smile: It's my job to get people to not accept uncritically what people read about health claims.
Original post by Kindred
Yeah that sounds like a good amount of time.
I would like to mention though that I think milk is probably an unlikely cause. I believe milk is filtered extensively before being sold to remove the stuff people suggest would cause acne. I would do some research first to make sure it isn't just people making silly things up.
You might also like to try natural (or medical) remedies before you remove dairy from your diet to see if a simple things could fix it (even if the milk is causing it).
I've heard sugar scrub is good and have had positive experience personally with teatree exfoliant (you can get it at body shop).

Good luck with whatever you try though. :smile:


You're kind, thank you!!!
Original post by Reality Check
No, I'm not being sarcastic! I'm genuinely pleased that you're going to question what you read/hear - I'm a scientist. :smile: It's my job to get people to not accept uncritically what people read about health claims.


Oh, well you should've said. Thanks :smile:
It can do, but the very best way to know for sure is to eliminate it (perhaps for a month), and then keep record of what happens when you reintroduce it :smile:

I'm sure some TSRers will freak out about that suggestion, but there are no health downsides to going without dairy for a month, assuming you other nutritious foods. Whereas there could be a health downside in your specific case to consuming dairy.
Even doctors recommend elimination diets when attempting to diagnose allergies and intolerances in some cases. If you think about it, it's also the most scientific way to discern the truth :wink:
Original post by emerald7770
Okay is this scientific enough?
Most of the cows used in farming are actually pregnant cows. The hormones such as progesterone and insulin growth factors make their way into the milk, when we consume the milk, it leads to increased levels of inflammation, skin breakdown, aging and acne in many people.


@Angry cucumber
We're totally going to have a pointless rant in here about whether or not hormones in milk are a problem, aren't we? :dry:

Aside from hormones, caseine and lactose are both known allergens. That's not something that there's any scientific disagreement about. For the purpose of the OP's needs... which aren't to settle the specifics of some obscure nutrition debate, but rather to work out whether her specific body responds to dairy... all of that is rather unecessary.
Original post by Craghyrax
We're totally going to have a pointless rant in here about whether or not hormones in milk are a problem, aren't we? :dry:

Aside from hormones, caseine and lactose are both known allergens. That's not something that there's any scientific disagreement about. For the purpose of the OP's needs... which aren't to settle the specifics of some obscure nutrition debate, but rather to work out whether her specific body responds to dairy... all of that is rather unecessary.


It's not pointless if there are uniformed individuals reading who can learn something from potential debate.

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