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Find and classify, the stationary points on the curves with parametric equations using first differential method. x=t^2 and y=t^3 -3t
dy/dx= 3t^2-3/2t

The stationary points are (1,2) when t =-1 and when t=1 the stationary point is (1,-2). The problem I'm having is when using first differential method I get that the points are inflection points, however this is wrong and they should be maximum and minimum points. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Reply 1
It may be useful to show your workings.
Reply 2
Original post by gooner1010
Find and classify, the stationary points on the curves with parametric equations using first differential method. x=t^2 and y=t^3 -3t
dy/dx= 3t^2-3/2t

The stationary points are (1,2) when t =-1 and when t=1 the stationary point is (1,-2). The problem I'm having is when using first differential method I get that the points are inflection points, however this is wrong and they should be maximum and minimum points. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks


Don't you mean second?
Original post by gooner1010
Find and classify, the stationary points on the curves with parametric equations using first differential method. x=t^2 and y=t^3 -3t
dy/dx= 3t^2-3/2t

The stationary points are (1,2) when t =-1 and when t=1 the stationary point is (1,-2). The problem I'm having is when using first differential method I get that the points are inflection points, however this is wrong and they should be maximum and minimum points. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks


How did you test your stationary points?
Reply 4
Original post by h3rmit
Don't you mean second?


I tried second and I got the correct answer however the questions says use the first differential
Reply 5
Original post by gooner1010
I tried second and I got the correct answer however the questions says use the first differential


Also for the spec im doing, they only expect you to know first differential
Reply 6
Original post by gooner1010
I tried second and I got the correct answer however the questions says use the first differential


That works too, with t=.9 and t=1.1, then the negatives
Reply 7
Original post by h3rmit
That works too, with t=.9 and t=1.1, then the negatives


is there a specific range when using first differential method? I tried 0.5 and 1.5
Reply 8
Original post by gooner1010
is there a specific range when using first differential method? I tried 0.5 and 1.5


As close to the point you're using as possible is generally good idea, usually 0.1 or less away
Reply 9
Original post by h3rmit
That works too, with t=.9 and t=1.1, then the negatives


When I put 0.9 I get a negative value and 1.1 get a positive value, wouldn't that be a point of inflection?
Reply 10
Original post by gooner1010
When I put 0.9 I get a negative value and 1.1 get a positive value, wouldn't that be a point of inflection?


No, positve on both sides or negative on both sides would be a point of inflection. Positive on one side and negative on the other means it's a turning point, like the hump of a cubic
Reply 11
Original post by h3rmit
No, positve on both sides or negative on both sides would be a point of inflection. Positive on one side and negative on the other means it's a turning point, like the hump of a cubic


ahhh, I've got it now. Thankyou for the help:smile::biggrin:

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