Speaker declares Trump too racist and sexist to speak in Westminster Hall

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Is that just that you don't like his politics, or generally?

He has to be better than Martin, no matter what you think of the former.

Martin wasn't impartial at all, and the way he called MPs at PMQs especially was a shocker. So after two Labour Speakers in a row, along comes John Bercow, the most unpopular MP in the Tory party - and is just as biased, but rather than because of his politics, it seems to be for some kind of attention-seeking. He just seems to want to draw attention to himself as much as possible.

Reply 21

Fullofsurprises

Original post by Hydeman

This can only be seen as racist if it could be proved he campaigned for it because they were black. Is there any evidence of that or are we going with ye olde FoS intuition?

It's true that he didn't say "coz they're black", but it's obvious from the rhetoric what he meant.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/17/central-park-five-donald-trump-jogger-rape-case-new-york

When you add it to all his other public actions and the stunning lack of diversity in his job picks (apart from the stereotypically attractive women he surrounds himself with - hardly evidence of feminist attitudes on his part), the evidence speaks for itself.

Reply 22

ChaoticButterfly

Original post by Fullofsurprises

Wow.

Speaker Bercow has declared Trump to be too sexist and racist to be permitted to speak to Parliament.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2017/feb/06/may-to-meet-netanyahu-ahead-of-brexit-debate-in-commons-live-updates

Take that and chew on it, Trump! :lol:

This must be a first for a very long time - a Speaker of the British Parliament denying speaking rights to the American President, due to his unsuitable conduct.

If it wasn't tragic, it would be funny.

It's all good and all but when you consider the type of thing US president have presided over, like coups in other countries etc, being sexist is hardly a reason to ban them :-/ Presidents like Obama could get away with so much awful stuff just because they are cool and are good at liberal spiel. But if Trump allows people to wake up at how crap the world is then it is something that can be used for positive effect but it isn't enough to just go back to how things were in 4 years (well unless the alternative is fascism :s-smilie:

).

It will annoy him though which is good. He is so easily triggered.

I do kind of feel though that the best way to trigger him is to have him come on a visits but be not able to go anywhere because the roads are blocked with protesters :tongue:

Reply 23

Ladbants

I don't think he should be allowed to speak. The five people who have addressed the commons had all achieved many great things. Trump is still very early into his presidency and has not yet achieved anything of a high enough magnitude to deserve the privilege of addressing the House of Commons.

Reply 24

Doones

Original post by Fullofsurprises

From now on, if Twitter goes down, Trump will immediately blame one or more of Mexico/China/Democratic Party/National Parks Service/City of Seattle/Federal Judiciary and nuke them immediately. Oh, he will check it first with Steve Bannon and Jared Kushner, just to get the sensible view.

I presume you are following @RoguePOTUSStaff - etc.

Reply 25

Sabertooth

Original post by Ladbants

The five people who have addressed the commons had all achieved many great things..

Such as, for Obama?

Reply 26

Fullofsurprises

Original post by jneill

I presume you are following @RoguePOTUSStaff - etc.

I've dipped in and out. I get a lot of email messages from people I used to work with in Washington and things like that and the guy I work for is very plugged in. It's a fun time, apart from the imminent threat to world stability and peace.

Reply 27

ddrrzzeerr

I think he should have stayed out of it. It is taking a political position and he should remain neutral. I'm normally a big fan of Bercow's but he has got this wrong.

Reply 28

Fullofsurprises

Original post by ChaoticButterfly

I do kind of feel though that the best way to trigger him is to have him come on a visits but be not able to go anywhere because the roads are blocked with protesters :tongue:

It would be major if the motorcade couldn't reach his golf course or something like that. :yep:

I would kind of like for him to be speaking at Westminster Hall and be roundly booed. :teehee:

However, there's nothing really to stop the Speaker from saying he won't have him.

Reply 29

Ladbants

Original post by Sabertooth

Such as, for Obama?

He's the first African American ever to be President of the world's most powerful nation.

Reply 30

Sabertooth

Original post by Ladbants

He's the first African American ever to be President of the world's most powerful nation.

And that is, in your opinion, "achieving a great many things"?

:teehee:

Reply 31

Ladbants

Original post by Fullofsurprises

It would be major if the motorcade couldn't reach his golf course or something like that. :yep:

I would kind of like for him to be speaking at Westminster Hall and be roundly booed. :teehee:

However, there's nothing really to stop the Speaker from saying he won't have him.

I don't think he would be roundly booed. The majority of the Conservatives probably would treat him with some respect and stay silent.

Reply 32

Ladbants

Original post by Sabertooth

And that is, in your opinion, "achieving a great many things"?

:teehee:

Yes, in my opinion

Reply 33

Sabertooth

Original post by Ladbants

Yes, in my opinion

Trump is the oldest man ever elected president. Not a "great feat"? :tongue:

Reply 34

InnerTemple

Good.

Poor old Trump must be at a loss as to who to lambast on Twitter first: Bercow or the Judges striking down his muslim ban.

Reply 35

Jammy Duel

Ooooo, a new person has joined the "I want you to feel bad if you disagree with my opinion" polling options club.

Reply 36

Doones

Trump's opinion of Bercow:
[video]https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/C4AMxVfWAAAdT09.mp4[/video]

(edited 7 years ago)

Reply 37

username963570

Original post by Fullofsurprises

Wow.

Agreed - a State Visit does not mean the U.S. President has to address both Houses of Parliament. Would very much like him not to.

That said I don't think you're going to have much response on this poll - I would have voted but the poll is far too biased.

Reply 38

Ladbants

Original post by Sabertooth

Trump is the oldest man ever elected president. Not a "great feat"? :tongue:

No I don't think so.

Reply 39

username2965904

An invitation to speak to the House of Commons in Westminster Hall should be a very rare event. Perhaps Nelson Mandela was deserving of this honour, not sure many others have been.