REAL SOCIAL QUESTION : Are there LEAGUES?

Hi Guys Just wondering if you could help me out here?

So Im 17yrs old (male) and dont want to be arrogant but many people say I have a rly nice personality.

I am very confident (often start conversations with strangers/people in older years/girls) and also kind ( I genuinely believe in doing the right thing and helping ppl out cos we're all in it together)

I make many jokes in my conversations (not world class comedy but I try my best haha) and I dont try too hard either. ( I compliment ppl if I truly think they deserve it and dont flatter ppl) . I also have varied hobbies in music and sport.

However Im not traditionally attractive. Im 5'6(shortish), have quite a lot of acne (not medically severe but just on the heavy side) , wear glasses and am easily on the thin side. (not medically severe just thin lol)

Also I dont have a lot of friends, just 3/4 closish acquaintances which might put ppl off being a loner mostly. Objectively Im a 6.5/10. (not unconfident, just objective)

Thing is, the girls Ive like all have great personalities (they are kind, genuine, out going and humorous) but are also very pretty.

Not make up pretty with a hot body just stunningly beautiful naturally. Ive asked 2 of these type of girls over the years and both rejected me.

(In both cases, we were friends before and we seemed to have chemistry but obviously not to the extent I thought)

My question is, am I just too ambitious?

I know I have a good personality being confident and kind but I know Im not blessed with great looks/body by any means, am I simply asking ppl out of my league since they have both personality and looks?

thanks for any help/opinions

Dating in my experience is hard work. Being physically attractive is a big help, but even then there can be rejections and angst. Stunningly beautiful naturally girls are difficult to win as there will be a lot of interest and many of course will go after beautiful guys. So there is no doubt that looks count but they are only one aspect of attractiveness, personality is in the mix too. I don't think you are being too ambitious, it about playing to your strengths, working on weaknesses, flirting with girls of all levels of physical attractiveness and being resilient to knock backs and enjoying the successes, which do arise.

Dating is a numbers game. If you ask out a high volume of very attractive ladies, you'll receive a high number of knock-backs but you'll also have a far higher probability of success.

Conversely you could ask out a lower number of ladies you found less attractive, resulting in a higher success ratio but the trade off is that you're with a lady you feel less attracted to.

Two things to remember:

1 - Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - 100%. There's no such thing as ugly or beautiful, it all depends on who's eyes you're looking through.

2 - Everyone gets knocked back - everyone! If you can keep strong and stick to your strategy without becoming perturbed then you'll bag yourself a hottie

Good luck!

Hi Guys Just wondering if you could help me out here?

So Im 17yrs old (male) and dont want to be arrogant but many people say I have a rly nice personality.

I am very confident (often start conversations with strangers/people in older years/girls) and also kind ( I genuinely believe in doing the right thing and helping ppl out cos we're all in it together)

I make many jokes in my conversations (not world class comedy but I try my best haha) and I dont try too hard either. ( I compliment ppl if I truly think they deserve it and dont flatter ppl) . I also have varied hobbies in music and sport.

However Im not traditionally attractive. Im 5'6(shortish), have quite a lot of acne (not medically severe but just on the heavy side) , wear glasses and am easily on the thin side. (not medically severe just thin lol)

Also I dont have a lot of friends, just 3/4 closish acquaintances which might put ppl off being a loner mostly. Objectively Im a 6.5/10. (not unconfident, just objective)

Thing is, the girls Ive like all have great personalities (they are kind, genuine, out going and humorous) but are also very pretty.

Not make up pretty with a hot body just stunningly beautiful naturally. Ive asked 2 of these type of girls over the years and both rejected me.

(In both cases, we were friends before and we seemed to have chemistry but obviously not to the extent I thought)

My question is, am I just too ambitious?

I know I have a good personality being confident and kind but I know Im not blessed with great looks/body by any means, am I simply asking ppl out of my league since they have both personality and looks?

thanks for any help/opinions

Know how you feel. I'm 28 years old and I've never been able to get a woman. Always getting rejected whether it is online, bars, clubs, work. Always the same answer, no or I don't see you in that way. The only way that I've been able to have sex is by going to escorts. Expensive, you do not want to go down that route. At my age I should have had at least one gf, lol most of friends are married or engaged. The situation is so bad that I have decided to get cosmetic surgery at some point this year. Going to change my face. In your case you could always get cosmetic surgery, go to the gym, sort out your acne, make money e.t.c. Lucky you are still young, so you have time.

Dating is a numbers game. If you ask out a high volume of very attractive ladies, you'll receive a high number of knock-backs but you'll also have a far higher probability of success.

Conversely you could ask out a lower number of ladies you found less attractive, resulting in a higher success ratio but the trade off is that you're with a lady you feel less attracted to.

Two things to remember:

1 - Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - 100%. There's no such thing as ugly or beautiful, it all depends on who's eyes you're looking through.

2 - Everyone gets knocked back - everyone! If you can keep strong and stick to your strategy without becoming perturbed then you'll bag yourself a hottie

Good luck!

Oh come on. This is ********. You may not feel attracted to people who are generally considered beautiful but this doesn't change the fact that they are still BEAUTIFUL, no matter how you look at it, they're just pleasant to look at . E.g. classy example - Marilyn Monroe - you may not be attracted to her but no sane person would would call her 'ugly'. And there are tons people who are below average/ ugly because their facial structure is just messed up...

Dating is a numbers game. If you ask out a high volume of very attractive ladies, you'll receive a high number of knock-backs but you'll also have a far higher probability of success.

Conversely you could ask out a lower number of ladies you found less attractive, resulting in a higher success ratio but the trade off is that you're with a lady you feel less attracted to.

Two things to remember:

1 - Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - 100%. There's no such thing as ugly or beautiful, it all depends on who's eyes you're looking through.

2 - Everyone gets knocked back - everyone! If you can keep strong and stick to your strategy without becoming perturbed then you'll bag yourself a hottie

Good luck!

Oh come on. This is ********. You may not feel attracted to people who are generally considered beautiful but this doesn't change the fact that they are still BEAUTIFUL, no matter how you look at it, they're just pleasant to look at . E.g. classy example - Marilyn Monroe - you may not be attracted to her but no sane person would would call her 'ugly'. And there are tons people who are below average/ ugly because their facial structure is just messed up...

so whos right on this, is there any hope?

God, you sound so desperate. No offence.
A lot of very, very attractive girls will want an attractive guy, not just someone with a nice personality, but not all of them. There's no right or wrong answer to this.