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Staggering wealth gap in the world - Gulf royal buys entire London car park

To store his collection of 80 supercars.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4207026/Gulf-royal-buys-Knightsbridge-car-park-21million.html

It's a 130 space underground car park in Kensington.

Clearly the nondom system, the tax system, the luxury tax system and the planning laws are not working.

We need a radical change, with proper levels of taxation on the super rich and high rates of adverse taxation on the global class of oligarchs and plutocrats who want to make London their private playground.

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Original post by Fullofsurprises
To store his collection of 80 supercars.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4207026/Gulf-royal-buys-Knightsbridge-car-park-21million.html

It's a 130 space underground car park in Kensington.

Clearly the nondom system, the tax system, the luxury tax system and the planning laws are not working.

We need a radical change, with proper levels of taxation on the super rich and high rates of adverse taxation on the global class of oligarchs and plutocrats who want to make London their private playground.


"But they worked hard for it" :rofl:

EDIT: If this can't convince people there's a problem, then nothing can.
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Original post by cbreef
"But they worked hard for it" :rofl:


Yes, inheriting staggering wealth accumulated from corrupt plutocracy in regimes maintained to service western corporate interests and armed to the teeth to suppress all dissent is incredibly hard work. :rolleyes:
Original post by Fullofsurprises
Yes, inheriting staggering wealth accumulated from corrupt plutocracy in regimes maintained to service western corporate interests and armed to the teeth to suppress all dissent is incredibly hard work. :rolleyes:


Indeed :toofunny: Well said.
Original post by Fullofsurprises
Yes, inheriting staggering wealth accumulated from corrupt plutocracy in regimes maintained to service western corporate interests and armed to the teeth to suppress all dissent is incredibly hard work. :rolleyes:


So let's improve the system by taking money from these people and keeping it for ourselves, that's really going to make the world better


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Original post by Underscore__
So let's improve the system by taking money from these people and keeping it for ourselves, that's really going to make the world better


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ikr? If you don't want Billionaires in this country then just start taking their money and they'll leave. Whoops, now the people at the top of the income scale are no longer here to put into our tax system. Derp. Labour tried this ages ago by increasing taxes for the rich and a lot left.

I think it's better to have a smaller tax everyone will pay than a large one only a few will pay.


Also the article clearly state this was a one off event.
He bought an entire carpark? Y-y'mean he didn't just buy one or two parking spaces. The swine.
Original post by JoshDawg
ikr? If you don't want Billionaires in this country then just start taking their money and they'll leave. Whoops, now the people at the top of the income scale are no longer here to put into our tax system. Derp. Labour tried this ages ago by increasing taxes for the rich and a lot left.

I think it's better to have a smaller tax everyone will pay than a large one only a few will pay.


Also the article clearly state this was a one off event.


How much is a lot? 5%?
Original post by Fullofsurprises
To store his collection of 80 supercars.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4207026/Gulf-royal-buys-Knightsbridge-car-park-21million.html

It's a 130 space underground car park in Kensington.

Clearly the nondom system, the tax system, the luxury tax system and the planning laws are not working.

We need a radical change, with proper levels of taxation on the super rich and high rates of adverse taxation on the global class of oligarchs and plutocrats who want to make London their private playground.


Goodness me, where to begin?

The wealth gap is not "staggering", it is perfectly reasonable and more than understandable if you recognise what is meant by wealth.

Sole wealth is the value of all goods and services belonging to an individual [1], which includes liquid entities like money, but also includes investment, property and other assets which have a value.

Therefore, for most people, you are not going to be able to accumulate wealth until you have been able to earn money over a prolonged period. In order to have wealth, first you must work. In order to be wealthy, you must have worked for a long time. Hence, wealthy people tend to be older.

Just because you are not wealthy, that does not mean you live in poverty. I am a student and my net wealth is in the negative, but my standard of living is perfectly adequate. Indeed, people who have a mortgage, student loans, car finance or any other financial obligation will also likely have little wealth, but this does not mean they are struggling financially.

It is silly to try and exacerbate economic inequality by quoting the wealth gap, since it is not an indicator of economic wellbeing and its interpretation is wholly misrepresentative.
Original post by JoshDawg

Also the article clearly state this was a one off event.


It's a symptom, he's far from being the only one. It's also a symptom of the way the UK allows any foreign rich person, unchecked, with no money laundering checks or enquiries into how the money was obtained, to buy up major pieces of capital and infrastructure. Let's not even get started on how media are owned by foreign oligarchs, energy companies by Russian mobsters and our railways by subsidised state operators who use our inflated ticket revenue to allow people in their own countries to travel cheaply.
Original post by Fullofsurprises

Clearly the nondom system, the tax system, the luxury tax system and the planning laws are not working.


I agree! We should apply punitve tax levels, introduce higly restrictive visa rules and drive these people out of the country. We don't want UK taxpayers to be subsidised by people with vast inherited wealth from abroad who have no business coming to Britain for their holidays in the first place.

It beggars belief that the public should want to accept VAT, stamp duty, corporation tax, business rates, council tax and income tax from the likes of him. And he can take his security jobs, his car servicing business and his other tainted spending and stuff it where the sun doesn't shine!

Let's foist the problem onto the French or the Germans and make sure they are tainted by such subsidies.
Original post by jake4198
Goodness me, where to begin?

The wealth gap is not "staggering", it is perfectly reasonable and more than understandable if you recognise what is meant by wealth.

Sole wealth is the value of all goods and services belonging to an individual [1], which includes liquid entities like money, but also includes investment, property and other assets which have a value.

Therefore, for most people, you are not going to be able to accumulate wealth until you have been able to earn money over a prolonged period. In order to have wealth, first you must work. In order to be wealthy, you must have worked for a long time. Hence, wealthy people tend to be older.

Just because you are not wealthy, that does not mean you live in poverty. I am a student and my net wealth is in the negative, but my standard of living is perfectly adequate. Indeed, people who have a mortgage, student loans, car finance or any other financial obligation will also likely have little wealth, but this does not mean they are struggling financially.

It is silly to try and exacerbate economic inequality by quoting the wealth gap, since it is not an indicator of economic wellbeing and its interpretation is wholly misrepresentative.


You seriously think that Gulf royals have done anything remotely resembling 'earning money'?
Original post by TheGuyReturns
IN to see how the right wing nutters on this site spin this.


Your prediction seems to be eerily correct. :afraid:
the guy must be an extreme clunge magnet
Original post by Fullofsurprises
You seriously think that Gulf royals have done anything remotely resembling 'earning money'?


How so?

The Gulf states have benefited massively from global demand in oil, which, as a result of trade, has allowed the Gulf region to develop tremendously as a result of newfound inward investment.

If you are suggesting that the money has ended up in the wrong hands, then that is a different topic of conversation. However, to question the legitimacy of their wealth is silly.
Original post by Mathemagicien
Good on him for investing in UK infrastructure.


He isn't, he's withdrawing it from the public domain.
So what? He can afford an extremely expensive car park, he can buy one.
Original post by jake4198

If you are suggesting that the money has ended up in the wrong hands, then that is a different topic of conversation. However, to question the legitimacy of their wealth is silly.


It certainly is not silly to question it. They are corrupt monarchies, installed by the British and Americans, to play the role of local controllers in the oil machinery. They enjoy oligarchical profits in tandem with little democracy and plenty of human rights abuse, backed up by our weapons systems and money.

Yes, it needs questioning.
So... My question here is "How do you want to tax a foreign national who chooses to spend their money in London."

If they earn their money in a foreign country and import their money from said foreign country to spend in England, how do you know what to tax and how much? There is already a luxury tax on real estate, which escalates with cost up to 50% of the real estate.

Should we just hold up wealthy people who choose to come here and rob them at gunpoint?

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