Drake tells hijabi muslim fans to take their scarf off at a concert!

Well, the Islamic Empire actually went and took over parts of Spain which isnt really Arabia.. And Islam is the fastest growing religion

So at least you don't dispute the aggressive nature of Islam.

You do understand that Islam is the fastest growing religion because it is followed by the most backward parts of the world, with the highest birth rates, don't you? It is inevitable that the children born to such families, often not educated, and brainwashed from birth into Islam are going to be Moslem.

No way lol it sounded dodgy as heck when i re-read it.

I know Islam is the true path and you have got to respect that..

Well, the Islamic Empire actually went and took over parts of Spain which isnt really Arabia..

And Islam is the fastest growing religion

and many many westerners are converting to Islam

so in my personal opinion, Islam really doesnt need to adapt.

Plus, studies have shown that Islam will be the largest religion by 2030 or 2050

i think so I think it will coexist in the future

I understand what your saying but I dont believe Islam needs to adapt. Yes those hijabi girls shouldnt be there according to Islam but so shouldnt the non hijabi muslim girls and dont forget about the muslim men. We as muslims do live in the West so we shouldnt criticise others who do things against our religion but rather refrain from doing those things. Obviously, everyone has a choice and I would prefer a girl with a hijab to go that concert rather than a non hijabi muslim because 2 wrongs dont make a right. But I understand exactly what your saying

*Moslem. But perhaps you prefer Mussulman or Mohammedan.

Don't be silly. I don't have to respect superstitious beliefs, particularly when they concern aggressive ideologies like Islam and Nazism, or cruel treatment of people like the Incas' religion and Islam, or punishments for apostasy like Islam.

You do know that "often" and "all" have rather different meanings, don't you?

clearly it does need to adapt because it is creating a generation of confused and at worst neurotic muslims that are in constant conflict with the pre-mevieval edicts that dictate them and the onward progression of modern life.

can you think if any other community has succeeded anywhere being still tied to traditions from the 8th century

Yes, it did, didn't it.
How did they manage to do that when the Quran only allows fighting in self-defence? (And there was the whole of North Africa they needed to conquer to get to Spain)


Only through high birthrates. As standards of living, education, healthcare, etc, improve, that will fall.

No they aren't (only about 4000 a year in the UK). And about half of those do so to enable marriage. A study (by a Muslim academic) showed that about 75% of converts leave Islam within three years.
And of course there is probably a similar number of Muslims converting to another religion or atheism (it is difficult to get accurate figures because apostates tend to keep their "crime" secret, for fear of reprisals). So converts don't really add anything to the numbers.

Well, it is clear that Muslims are adapting, and Islam must keep up or lose its relevance.

The thing about these numbers is that they are not nuanced. They make assumptions about people's belief, both what they believe and how much they believe it. Whenever studies go into any depth about what people beleive rather than the label assaigned to them by family or state, a different picture emerges. A recent study which took a deeper view found that "irreligious" (indifferent to religion to some degree) was the largest and fastest growing group in the world. This group included people who would normally be labelled as a "Muslim", "Christian", "Hindu", etc, under less sophisticated surveys.

A survey following up the UK census showed exactly the same thing. When asked the census question "What is your religion", with a list of options, 60% chose a religion. When the same people were asked "are you religious?", 65% said "no".

I'm sure it will. But how it coexists is the question.

We have mr smarty pants here dont we. Please send me every single link of all these studies. I am so intrigued 😂 I

Sure.
But when I do, you have to say you were a very naughty boy to have doubted my word, and that you're very sorry and won't do it again.

I would say read the Qur'an and then judge but atleast read 88:21-25.. in regards to Apostasy, even Muhammad pbuh wasnt allowed to kill anyone leaving the religion. Allah said he isnt a controller, only a reminder.

Look at the language you're using. You don't show any respect for anyone so why should the moderators allow you to be abusive and deliberately offensive? If you want to join in the debate then by all means but at least have the decency to show a rudimentary level of respect for your peers.

Well respect is earned.

Well, the Islamic Empire actually went and took over parts of Spain which isnt really Arabia.. And Islam is the fastest growing religion and many many westerners are converting to Islam so in my personal opinion, Islam really doesnt need to adapt. Plus, studies have shown that Islam will be the largest religion by 2030 or 2050 i think so I think it will coexist in the future 😂 Anyways, I didnt say Mehdi Hassan was perfect. I just prefer him over Maajid Nawaz whom very very minority Muslims actually like. You must be a crazy muslim to actually support him😂 But i agree, he is good looking no homo

QE2 has already dealt with the your fallacious numbers argument. Also, I'm not quite sure why Muslims parrot this whole "Islam is growing so massively" with such pride. You do know, don't you, that your OWN religion says that one day not a single proper Muslim will be left on Earth?

QE2 has already dealt with the your fallacious numbers argument. Also, I'm not quite sure why Muslims parrot this whole "Islam is growing so massively" with such pride. You do know, don't you, that your OWN religion says that one day not a single proper Muslim will be left on Earth?

You're not Muslim so I forgive your ignorance.