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It's easy to cherry-pick a few remarks and use them to characterise and dismiss an entire way of thought and a movement containing hundreds of millions of people. Dismissing and ignoring people is always the easiest course of action. It's more difficult to consider that such a movement couldn't possibly be monolithic, and that most of its members are rational people with legitimate concerns and reasonable solutions.

As usual, the person who shouts the most objectionably and loudly gets the most coverage.
Original post by anosmianAcrimony
It's easy to cherry-pick a few remarks and use them to characterise and dismiss an entire way of thought and a movement containing hundreds of millions of people. Dismissing and ignoring people is always the easiest course of action. It's more difficult to consider that such a movement couldn't possibly be monolithic, and that most of its members are rational people with legitimate concerns and reasonable solutions.

As usual, the person who shouts the most objectionably and loudly gets the most coverage.


But to be fair this person, who is a member of this 'movement' is neither rational nor has reasonable solutions. And it's fair to point this out, notwithstanding your comments.
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Original post by anosmianAcrimony
It's easy to cherry-pick a few remarks and use them to characterise and dismiss an entire way of thought and a movement containing hundreds of millions of people. Dismissing and ignoring people is always the easiest course of action. It's more difficult to consider that such a movement couldn't possibly be monolithic, and that most of its members are rational people with legitimate concerns and reasonable solutions.

As usual, the person who shouts the most objectionably and loudly gets the most coverage.


But the thing is when a few right wing people go "I hate black people" or "all immigrants should die" the good right wing people (most of them) tell him he is stupid or wrong and racist.

When the left say something like this only the """""""""righ wing extremists""""""""" complain and most people see it as fine sure there are some liberals that are sensible and say that this is horribly sexist and anti-straight.

In the west modern feminism has done a lot to destroy culture ruin universities and drag down nations.
But they don't, though
Nooo...then i'll never get a bf :unimpressed::cry2:
why do you even folks pay attention to these idiots. it's like getting a copy of the Daily Mail then being scandalised because they said something deplorable about foreigners. Guardian feminists say inane comments and the Pope is Catholic.
Well that's pretty awful innit.
"all men should be put in prison and shot"

best idea 10/10. Either she secretly wants to end the human race or shes an idiot.
Original post by anosmianAcrimony
It's easy to cherry-pick a few remarks and use them to characterise and dismiss an entire way of thought


Cherry pick a few remarks? These are remakes made by top feminists, by women who are in power and control, women who mould and influence and teach feminists across the world.......These are remarks made by people who shape feminist ideology, activism and thinking. An ideology, activism and thinking that are based on the sexist principle of patriarchy where man is, by virtue of his gender, evil....

Original post by anosmianAcrimony
a movement containing hundreds of millions of people.


A movement of hundreds of millions of people????!!!????!!!!!

80% of women and 85% of men do not identify with feminism....in what world does that equate to hundreds of millions of people? You are a non-existent minority...an institutionalised loud minority with deep pockets but a non-existent one nonetheless..

Regardless, numbers do not prove anything. 500 years ago the majority of people on this planet thought that the earth was flat. If Galileo had not challenged the majority we would still be living in ignorance of our reality to this day.

Original post by anosmianAcrimony


As usual, the person who shouts the most objectionably and loudly gets the most coverage.


Gets the most coverage how? when the media has done its best to ignore and hide these stories? Getting the most coverage how, when these women have not been held to account years after their crimes thanks to under-reporting?

The only coverage that these sexists have got from the media is coverage that has aimed to justify and protect them which has helped these women, these feminist, to get away with their hate crimes.
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If a male journalist tweeted this about women there would be an extensive shaming campaign followed by a reprimand and a public apology. But women are the ones without the privileges, right?
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Shot by whom? Other men I presume :lol:
Original post by Reality Check
She might think differently after her first graduate job interview... Can't stay in the playpen for ever.


Shame really. It would be better if she stayed there forever. Whenever I come across these entitled twerps in the real world, I just roll my eyes at the entitled brats. They really are out of touch with reality and British universities seem to be churning out more and more of these morons with each passing year.
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Original post by Reality Check
Isn't putting men in prison then shooting them a bit of a redundancy? Surely if you shoot them first, you don't need to bother with the prison bit?


Mortals can't possibly hope to understand the whizzings and whirrings of Julie Bindel's brain. She's like the unholy lovechild of Toby Jones and an iPad.
Original post by Reality Check
Isn't putting men in prison then shooting them a bit of a redundancy? Surely if you shoot them first, you don't need to bother with the prison bit?


She's made a mistake though, if all men are to be shot who'll do the shooting if it takes place in a jail rather than a kitchen?


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The best 'help' this flawed, sexist ideology can provide for men and women is to seize existing.
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Ah yeah, Bindel. She's the one who the NUS no-platformed for being a nutter, and whom righties, Yiannopoulos included, then immediately beatified as a heroic free speech martyr.

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Original post by anarchism101
Ah yeah, Bindel. She's the one who the NUS no-platformed for being a nutter, and whom righties, Yiannopoulos included, then immediately beatified as a heroic free speech martyr.

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It was still wrong for them to prevent her from speaking. The 'righties' didn't necessarily agree with everything she has to say, but that didn't stop them from recognising her right to speak.

Most of those same people, myself included, find her tweet offensive and hypocritical, yet wouldn't necessarily want to see it censored. But we'll definitely lambast it and question Twitter's double standards, that's for sure.
Original post by Dandaman1
It was still wrong for them to prevent her from speaking. The 'righties' didn't necessarily agree with everything she has to say, but that didn't stop them from recognising her right to speak.

Most of those same people, myself included, find her tweet offensive and hypocritical, yet wouldn't necessarily want to see it censored. But we'll definitely lambast it and question Twitter's double standards, that's for sure.


OP explicitly complained about Bindel being given a platform and place in a public forum. One or two others in this thread have also said the Guardian shouldn't print articles of hers.

Kudos to you for being somewhat consistent on this issue, but the same can't be said for everyone, e.g. the OP, who has moaning about his preferred speakers being "censored" just a few days ago.
Original post by anarchism101
OP explicitly complained about Bindel being given a platform and place in a public forum. One or two others in this thread have also said the Guardian shouldn't print articles of hers.

Kudos to you for being somewhat consistent on this issue, but the same can't be said for everyone, e.g. the OP, who has moaning about his preferred speakers being "censored" just a few days ago.


Depending on how you interpret what the OP (and one other) said, they may not be saying she shouldn't have the right to speak at all.

We could ask them to clarify their opinions on the matter.
Original post by Dandaman1
Depending on how you interpret what the OP (and one other) said, they may not be saying she shouldn't have the right to speak at all.

We could ask them to clarify their opinions on the matter.


We are free to express opinions but we are not free to make sexist or racist remarks in this country (nor any other civilised country for that matter). In this country people are not free to abuse others. In this country people are not free to commit hate crimes.

In the UK, gender is a protected characteristic. It is protected from discrimination under the Equality Act 2010. It is protected from discrimination by the law. We are free to debate gender issues and protest in a civilised manner but we are not free to demand that people be put in concentration camps or be killed because of their gender, as this women has done in her articles and comments. Such actions are considered hate crimes and are subject to litigation and punishment by the law. People who make sexist or racist remarks , like this, in public and/or on the internet can and often do wind up in court or in prison, loosing their jobs and fading into obscurity as apposed to going unquestioned and being celebrated as heroes.

In my original post, I questioned why this woman has not been challenged by her employers and why she has not been held to account by the law despite publicly expressing criminally sexist views. More importantly, I questioned why people like her are given the tools and power to enact their sexism and platforms from which they can preach and perpetuate their hate filled ways.

I hope that this has clarified things.
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