Should Africa Be Recolonised?
I think yes. Africa was much better off under colonial rule, for plenty of reasons. I can use as an example the country my parents hail from, Ghana.
Under British rule, the Gold Coast (the old name for the country) was a flourishing colony. Upon independence, the new nation had the most well-trained civil service in the whole of Africa. It was wealthy and stable. Then came Ghana's communist dictator Kwame Nkrumah, a man with a massive god complex who began destroying everything the British had built, arresting and killing political opponents, imposing a one-party communist state on the country and nationalising industries left, right and centre, forging alliances with communist dictators including the USSR and antagonising the West and encouraging Marxism throughout the continent. When he was overthrown in 1966 (with tacit British and American support), his oppressed people (no doubt relatives of mine included) rejoiced. The idiot died in exile, unlamented.
Likewise, South Africa was much better off under British rule than it is now, under a corrupt, racist and imcompetent political party, and in the shadow of a communist/terrorist named Nelson Mandela. Angola was better off under Portuguese rule than it is now under a Marxist dictatorship. I could go on and on.
Heck, this song makes me want to go out and recolonise the place:
[video="youtube;mwu8vP-or5I"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwu8vP-or5I[/video]
Under British rule, the Gold Coast (the old name for the country) was a flourishing colony. Upon independence, the new nation had the most well-trained civil service in the whole of Africa. It was wealthy and stable. Then came Ghana's communist dictator Kwame Nkrumah, a man with a massive god complex who began destroying everything the British had built, arresting and killing political opponents, imposing a one-party communist state on the country and nationalising industries left, right and centre, forging alliances with communist dictators including the USSR and antagonising the West and encouraging Marxism throughout the continent. When he was overthrown in 1966 (with tacit British and American support), his oppressed people (no doubt relatives of mine included) rejoiced. The idiot died in exile, unlamented.
Likewise, South Africa was much better off under British rule than it is now, under a corrupt, racist and imcompetent political party, and in the shadow of a communist/terrorist named Nelson Mandela. Angola was better off under Portuguese rule than it is now under a Marxist dictatorship. I could go on and on.
Heck, this song makes me want to go out and recolonise the place:
[video="youtube;mwu8vP-or5I"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwu8vP-or5I[/video]
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We have no right to.
Original post by nutz99
These shi*ty countries thought they could do better without our influence. Bolloc*s to them.
"Our influence" is part of the reason why there's so much conflict there in the first place. That read like you have the history knowledge of a primary school kid.
It'd end up being like the Palestine dilemma all over again.
Original post by Cato the Elder
Heck, this song makes me want to go out and recolonise the place:
Heck, this song makes me want to go out and recolonise the place:
Would you propose a non-racial but cultural colonial policy? In other words, they've not being placed under a white colonial government, but a British colonial government of people from all races but who are British citizens and fully culturally British?
I take it you're not proposing or advancing any ideology of racialism or racial superiority?
Original post by AlexanderHam
Would you propose a non-racial but cultural colonial policy? In other words, they've not being placed under a white colonial government, but a British colonial government of people from all races but who are British citizens and fully culturally British?
I take it you're not proposing or advancing any ideology of racialism or racial superiority?
I take it you're not proposing or advancing any ideology of racialism or racial superiority?
Yes, of course there would be no racial element to it. It would be cultural in nature.
I think the main thing is how they would be recolonised. I would prefer it to be done by state-sponsored companies like the East India Company and other such colonial corporations of old.
We could help by assassinating the corrupt dictators that you despise. In the same way Patrice Lumumba was assassinated. And turning the countries into great economic powers such as Hong Kong and Singapore by installing capitalist ideals. Otherwise there is really no point.
Original post by rustyldner
We could help by assassinating the corrupt dictators that you despise. In the same way Patrice Lumumba was assassinated
And that worked out so well for the Congo
I DONT KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF AFRICA
BUT IF ANY WHITE MAN COMES AND TRIES TO COLONISE SOMALIA AGAIN I WILL WHIP YOUR ASS WITH MY PIRATE leash!
BUT IF ANY WHITE MAN COMES AND TRIES TO COLONISE SOMALIA AGAIN I WILL WHIP YOUR ASS WITH MY PIRATE leash!
Original post by AlexanderHam
And that worked out so well for the Congo
Well the Congo should have just been recolonised instead of that wastrel Mobutu being allowed to take power.
Could have been worse though.
Original post by Cato the Elder
Fair enough. I may not agree with it, but it has the merit of not being inherently racist, merely imperialistic and condescending. I think your position does tie in with my personal view that race is completely irrelevant, all that matters is culture.
In that vein, I have absolutely no racial preference at all but I feel strongly in the cultural superiority of the Anglo-American civilisation. Its strengths have been clearly demonstrated in its commitment to the rule of law, to evolutionary change, representative government, free trade and commerce, and freedom of navigation on the high seas (and death to pirates and dictators who challenge that, whether Ghaddafi or the Somali pirates, Napoleon or Hitler, Saddam Hussein or the Barbary States of north Africa).
We are a seafaring people, and we in the Anglo-American civilisation have a unique commitment and responsibility for keeping global sea lines of communication free and unhindered (originally it was the Royal Navy who undertook this responsibility, after 1945 the responsibility passed to the US Navy with support from the other Anglosphere navies and our allies). Anything we can do to maintain and expand this dispensation is positive, to my mind; we have maintained it since the Glorious Revolution of 1688, long may it continue.
And of course this is why I view Trump as such a threat. He he has absolutely no commitment, or even understanding, of these traditions which are, more than any art or architecture or treasures, the jewels of the Anglo-American civilisation, along with our language.
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What if a reason why they are in a worse state than before at the moment is exactly colonisation?
Communism is from Russia. Marxism is from Germany. Neither of these forms of ruling a country are native to Africa.
What if had they never become colonies, African cuntries would never have adopted such totalitarian regimes? (Then again, they could have become even worse for all we can guess.) Besides, we all know how African countries were exploited as colonies.
But to answer the question, no. The UK has no right to force other countries who fought them for their independence to become colonies again.
Communism is from Russia. Marxism is from Germany. Neither of these forms of ruling a country are native to Africa.
What if had they never become colonies, African cuntries would never have adopted such totalitarian regimes? (Then again, they could have become even worse for all we can guess.) Besides, we all know how African countries were exploited as colonies.
But to answer the question, no. The UK has no right to force other countries who fought them for their independence to become colonies again.
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Original post by AlexanderHam
And that worked out so well for the Congo
It didn't, but it showed that colonial powers were able to kill African premiers, so the same could be done for dictators. Lumumba was a good leader and did not deserve to die, it is due to the fact he threatened West's economic interests in the Congo that he did. And that was unfortunate.
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Original post by rustyldner
It didn't, but it showed that colonial powers were able to kill African premiers, so the same could be done for dictators. Lumumba was a good leader and did not deserve to die, it is due to the fact he threatened West's economic interests in the Congo that he did. And that was unfortunate.
He got it coming. The bugger.
Original post by Michiyo
What if a reason why they are in a worse state than before at the moment is exactly colonisation?
Communism is from Russia. Marxism is from Germany. Neither of these forms of ruling a country are native to Africa.
What if had they never become colonies, African cuntries would never have adopted such totalitarian regimes? (Then again, they could have become even worse for all we can guess.) Besides, we all know how African countries were exploited as colonies.
But to answer the question, no. The UK has no right to force other countries who fought them for their independence to become colonies again.
Communism is from Russia. Marxism is from Germany. Neither of these forms of ruling a country are native to Africa.
What if had they never become colonies, African cuntries would never have adopted such totalitarian regimes? (Then again, they could have become even worse for all we can guess.) Besides, we all know how African countries were exploited as colonies.
But to answer the question, no. The UK has no right to force other countries who fought them for their independence to become colonies again.
"Right" has nothing to do with it. We have the might. Let's go in and take.
Original post by Cato the Elder
"Right" has nothing to do with it. We have the might. Let's go in and take.
Please tell me you are not serious
Original post by Michiyo
Please tell me you are not serious
I am.
Original post by AshEntropy
It should have a big nuclear bomb dropped on it
Do you think that would be a moral thing to do?
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