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Original post by defenestrated
does anyone else find consults a lot more interesting than surgery ??
i thought it would be the other way around


I prefer surgery, honestly. It might be because I've been lucky enough to see some interesting ones (a exenteration, a keratotomy and a huuuuuge tumour removal which involved a snazzy cauterising machine to name a few) on top of routine speys and neuters. That said, I don't find dentals as interesting :s

Consultations are really cool when you see animals that aren't so run of the mill (rabbits are always cute, I also got to see a random pet pigeon brought in once) but the sheer number of vaccinations make me quake a bit aha. But it's really fun to be in a post op consultation with the animal you saw under anaesthetic a few days prior 👍🏼
Original post by defenestrated
does anyone else find consults a lot more interesting than surgery ??
i thought it would be the other way around


tbh when you see enough of anything it will become a bit more boring than at first. I've been working in an emergency clinic for over a year now so I've seen a fair few dog ceasars and exploratory laparotomies and I don't think they're as exciting anymore :P
Original post by Angry cucumber
Standard routine surgery and even a lot of emergency is awful to watch but is fun to do for most :smile:

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I'M SO GLAD TO HEAR THAT thank you

Original post by luberry
it's pretty even for me, although I have found that you end up watching a lot of dog castrations or cat spays and routine surgeries like that rather than lots of different surgeries


yeah that's the thing, it was super cool the first time but the novelty just sort of wore off after I saw a few more
I guess actually doing it would be really different and lots more exciting though!!

Original post by brrrigid
I prefer surgery, honestly. It might be because I've been lucky enough to see some interesting ones (a exenteration, a keratotomy and a huuuuuge tumour removal which involved a snazzy cauterising machine to name a few) on top of routine speys and neuters. That said, I don't find dentals as interesting :s

Consultations are really cool when you see animals that aren't so run of the mill (rabbits are always cute, I also got to see a random pet pigeon brought in once) but the sheer number of vaccinations make me quake a bit aha. But it's really fun to be in a post op consultation with the animal you saw under anaesthetic a few days prior 👍🏼


there was a grid keratotomy but I only got to see the bit where they placed the contact lens because I'd been watching a CASTRATION :frown:
one of the vets I went to does keyhole surgery so I saw a cool cauterising machine for spays
I haven't actually seen any spays done the "normal" way :redface:
I HATE DENTALS they're so dull to watch and even the vets said they don't much like them
I couldn't imagine being a dentist and that being all you ever do

I really want to do work experience at an exotics vet for that reason but there's none close to me :frown: if I can find anyone willing to drive me then I'm 100% going to ask
that's true, it's so nice to be able to see an animal again whilst it's recovering and it must be even better for the vets who were already familiar with them :h:

Original post by Louiseee_
tbh when you see enough of anything it will become a bit more boring than at first. I've been working in an emergency clinic for over a year now so I've seen a fair few dog ceasars and exploratory laparotomies and I don't think they're as exciting anymore :P


I think it's also because in consults I feel comfortable asking lots of questions, but during surgeries I'm afraid that I'll distract the vet and they'll make a mistake that kills the animal :frown: so I mostly just stand and watch unless the vet starts explaining something themself and then I know it's okay to ask stuff
I WANT TO SEE A DOG CEASER I've seen one on a sheep but the lamb didn't make it :sad:
Original post by defenestrated
I'M SO GLAD TO HEAR THAT thank you



yeah that's the thing, it was super cool the first time but the novelty just sort of wore off after I saw a few more
I guess actually doing it would be really different and lots more exciting though!!



there was a grid keratotomy but I only got to see the bit where they placed the contact lens because I'd been watching a CASTRATION :frown:
one of the vets I went to does keyhole surgery so I saw a cool cauterising machine for spays
I haven't actually seen any spays done the "normal" way :redface:
I HATE DENTALS they're so dull to watch and even the vets said they don't much like them
I couldn't imagine being a dentist and that being all you ever do

I really want to do work experience at an exotics vet for that reason but there's none close to me :frown: if I can find anyone willing to drive me then I'm 100% going to ask
that's true, it's so nice to be able to see an animal again whilst it's recovering and it must be even better for the vets who were already familiar with them :h:



I think it's also because in consults I feel comfortable asking lots of questions, but during surgeries I'm afraid that I'll distract the vet and they'll make a mistake that kills the animal :frown: so I mostly just stand and watch unless the vet starts explaining something themself and then I know it's okay to ask stuff
I WANT TO SEE A DOG CEASER I've seen one on a sheep but the lamb didn't make it :sad:

Ah see I always felt the opposite! Always had pretty good chats with vets over operating tables (not always just about vet stuff though!) oh no, that's so sad that the lamb didn't make it :frown: if
You've not already booked lambing I'd recommend doing mixed or farm vet one Easter if you can, might not see any dog c sections but you will see a lot of sheep and maybe even some cows!
Original post by Little Tail Chaser
I was wondering when this thread would arrive, welcome :h:

I'm a first year at the RVC now so feel free to shoot me any questions about applying/vet school in general. :smile:


Hello! I was wondering if you happened to take a gap year before you applied for uni? I'm in year 12 and I'm supposed to apply for uni in October this year, but i dont have any work experience and I know how important it is for vet degrees.. I managed to get a 2 week placement at a vets over the summer and volunteer work at weekends at a stables, but apart from that I dont have anything else. Would you advise I take a gap year to build up my experience? Any advice is appreciated.. thank you!
If you've done some vet experience, you'll get far more out of doing lambing at Easter than vet w/ex

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Original post by crowleybeans
Hello! I was wondering if you happened to take a gap year before you applied for uni? I'm in year 12 and I'm supposed to apply for uni in October this year, but i dont have any work experience and I know how important it is for vet degrees.. I managed to get a 2 week placement at a vets over the summer and volunteer work at weekends at a stables, but apart from that I dont have anything else. Would you advise I take a gap year to build up my experience? Any advice is appreciated.. thank you!


Nah, I didn't. I did all my work experience over school breaks as well as weekends/some days after college, plus a gap year just would have been hassle for me, what with having to find a place to live and all that.

You still have plenty of time to gain experience this year. You still have Easter, another half term and summer, that's at least 11 weeks! My summer after year 12 was literally packed and I only saw my friends at weekends. It was hard work but I figured that it wasn't the summer to waste. Ensure you get some variety in there; like AC said, lambing is excellent and I would prioritise that for Easter since you won't be able to do that over summer.

To be honest you have nothing to lose by applying this year (perhaps avoid vet schools that are keen to see lots of wex though, i.e. Liverpool).
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Original post by Louiseee_
Ah see I always felt the opposite! Always had pretty good chats with vets over operating tables (not always just about vet stuff though!) oh no, that's so sad that the lamb didn't make it :frown: if
You've not already booked lambing I'd recommend doing mixed or farm vet one Easter if you can, might not see any dog c sections but you will see a lot of sheep and maybe even some cows!


I wish I could be the same!! I saw a spinal tap two days ago and I was literally too afraid to breathe :shy2: but to be fair that was a stressful surgery anyway because the vet had never done one before
I just finished a placement at a mixed practice and I'm conflicted because I LOVED the variety and going on visits was really exciting but tbh I think I'd hate it during winter when I just want to stay inside lol
I've got lambing booked for April as well and I'm hoping that I'll finally get to see a lamb being born that survives :teeth:
Hi,
After numerous emails i have come to my conclusion of a gap year. i am year 13 and have good GCSE's and A level predictions.

I take biology, psychology and PE A Level just now and will be taking Chemistry and Physics A level next year on a gap year. This is not a resit, but otherwise taking new A levels... which i will have to cram both two year courses into one year. I have booked a school and tutor to do this with.

It will be my first time applying next year, and after a year out (sort of) i will be older than some applicants. (19 almost 20). I applied for Sports and exercise science this year and received all my offers (Bath, Exeter, Loughborough, Leeds and Surrey) and i have deferred them.

I have booked work experience and have only started it now... i have made a total of the number of weeks i have already booked and plan to book, which is 20-23 weeks prior to my application being sent off in october.
my booked work experience before application includes...
1 week small vet practice
1 week small vet practice (another)
4 week small vet practice that deals with more complicated surgery
1 week pig unit at the royal farms
1 week dairy farm at the royal farms
3 weeks project abroad trip worked
9 weeks in a kennel already
1 week equine
2 weeks lambing
1 day abattoir
I will book more work experience/volunteering which i will mention in my personal statement.

In my free time i do triathlon (training for an ironman), volunteer at park run, hiking and travelling (duke of edinburgh silver and gold), i am a swim coach and lifeguard, and i attend lectures from durham and loughborough university out of my own interest in sports science related issues, and will be going on a world challegne 4 week expedition to madagascar this summer which is self funded.

I have emailed all the universities. I have deferred my offers from this year (sport and exercise science). Out of the 7 universities i emailed for veterinary medicine, Surrey, RVC, Nottingham, Bristol and Liverpool said they would consider my application next year in regards to taking my a levels over 3 years (because they are not resits), only if i am predicted A in chemistry. The school has agreed with this.

Edinburgh said they would not accept me for an interview.

In terms of someone who got accepted and knows the system better than i do... what is the likelihood of me getting an interview? If i don't get in, what should i do?

my fifth choice would be vet nursing... can i apply for vet med and vet nursing both at RVC? If i get rejected from one of them will they not consider me in the other? i really do not want to fall back on my sports science, and i cannot live with my parents any longer if i do not get accepted in after my gap year.. any suggestions? i cannot afford to live elsewhere on my own.

My teachers have said it would be likely to get offered an interview if i get my predictions this year (A*A*A) as i will have already had some evidence of grades, and have met the work experience requirements, and have evidence of continuing to do some more work experience. However i feel i am not at any advantage as many people will have more work experience than me, and had chosen the right A levels at the start of the year.

Thanks :smile:
Original post by sammy2012
Hi,
After numerous emails i have come to my conclusion of a gap year. i am year 13 and have good GCSE's and A level predictions.

I take biology, psychology and PE A Level just now and will be taking Chemistry and Physics A level next year on a gap year. This is not a resit, but otherwise taking new A levels... which i will have to cram both two year courses into one year. I have booked a school and tutor to do this with.

It will be my first time applying next year, and after a year out (sort of) i will be older than some applicants. (19 almost 20). I applied for Sports and exercise science this year and received all my offers (Bath, Exeter, Loughborough, Leeds and Surrey) and i have deferred them.

I have booked work experience and have only started it now... i have made a total of the number of weeks i have already booked and plan to book, which is 20-23 weeks prior to my application being sent off in october.
my booked work experience before application includes...
1 week small vet practice
1 week small vet practice (another)
4 week small vet practice that deals with more complicated surgery
1 week pig unit at the royal farms
1 week dairy farm at the royal farms
3 weeks project abroad trip worked
9 weeks in a kennel already
1 week equine
2 weeks lambing
1 day abattoir
I will book more work experience/volunteering which i will mention in my personal statement.

In my free time i do triathlon (training for an ironman), volunteer at park run, hiking and travelling (duke of edinburgh silver and gold), i am a swim coach and lifeguard, and i attend lectures from durham and loughborough university out of my own interest in sports science related issues, and will be going on a world challegne 4 week expedition to madagascar this summer which is self funded.

I have emailed all the universities. I have deferred my offers from this year (sport and exercise science). Out of the 7 universities i emailed for veterinary medicine, Surrey, RVC, Nottingham, Bristol and Liverpool said they would consider my application next year in regards to taking my a levels over 3 years (because they are not resits), only if i am predicted A in chemistry. The school has agreed with this.

Edinburgh said they would not accept me for an interview.

In terms of someone who got accepted and knows the system better than i do... what is the likelihood of me getting an interview? If i don't get in, what should i do?

my fifth choice would be vet nursing... can i apply for vet med and vet nursing both at RVC? If i get rejected from one of them will they not consider me in the other? i really do not want to fall back on my sports science, and i cannot live with my parents any longer if i do not get accepted in after my gap year.. any suggestions? i cannot afford to live elsewhere on my own.

My teachers have said it would be likely to get offered an interview if i get my predictions this year (A*A*A) as i will have already had some evidence of grades, and have met the work experience requirements, and have evidence of continuing to do some more work experience. However i feel i am not at any advantage as many people will have more work experience than me, and had chosen the right A levels at the start of the year.

Thanks :smile:


I think really you actually have a pretty chance of getting an interview (thought typically I think it's about 30-50% of applicants get interview depending on the uni, but this year nearly every Nottingham applicant will have had an interview). The only thing I will mention is if your project abroad is paid for, it won't be counted as work experience (anything you have to pay for is seen as an unfair disadvantage because not everyone can afford to do that). However, you have a good range of work experience booked. Just make sure you're not actually overdoing it with all the extra stuff. I'll be honest, one of the biggest downfalls of vet applicants (& certainly my own) was biting off more than you can chew with WEX and extra curriculars and failing an A levels
I was just browsing uni websites and I saw that Cambridge has lowered their 2018 entry requirements to A*AA. I guess they want to increase the number of applicants or something along those lines. IB requirements haven't changed, so this doesn't change anything for me ah well.
Original post by dutchette7
I was just browsing uni websites and I saw that Cambridge has lowered their 2018 entry requirements to A*AA. I guess they want to increase the number of applicants or something along those lines. IB requirements haven't changed, so this doesn't change anything for me ah well.


Do you think the course is under-subscribed compared to other vet med courses?

I'm thinking of applying regarding I get an A* in bio.... I'll probs be rejected though.


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Hey! (Me again)

Just wondered if any current students from any of the universities could tell me about their uni's individual stipulations regarding PCEMS and CEMS?

Basically, if the uni sets a required breakdown of the weeks and what you do in them?

Any replies will be greatly appreciated as always.

Thanks

~ Anderson
Original post by Anderson2727
Hey! (Me again)

Just wondered if any current students from any of the universities could tell me about their uni's individual stipulations regarding PCEMS and CEMS?

Basically, if the uni sets a required breakdown of the weeks and what you do in them?

Any replies will be greatly appreciated as always.

Thanks

~ Anderson


For Notts:
Animal Husbandry EMS (AHEMS)- Years1-3*, 12 weeks
(*if you do gateway/prelim you will do 4 weeks that contribute to the total 12 weeks)
Compulsory
(Prelim- 2 weeks lambing, 2 weeks vet nursing)
2 weeks lambing (must be completed in 1st year Easter unless you have a valid reason e.g. injury)
2 weeks dairy
2 weeks equine
2 weeks pigs or poultry
4 weeks additional which can be anything of your choice, however can only do up to 4 weeks max with anyone species e.g. if you do 3 weeks lambing in 1st Easter, you can only do one week the following Easter
Don't worry if you don't have contacts for these right now (I know dairy and pigs can be quite hard to get for WEX), all vet schools have an extensive database of contacts to make sure you complete them all. You can also do AHEMS & CEMS abroad if you wish.

Clinical EMS (CEMS)- Years 3-5, 26 weeks
7 weeks “Formalised CEMS” (Rotations) in Year 5 including:
4 weeks Specialist Elective CEMS
1 week OOH CEMS
2 weeks Specialist CEMS rotation
19 weeks "Standard CEMS" for you to organise throughout Years 3-5
The 19 weeks can basically be whatever you like, but there are a group of day 1 competences across all domestic species. These are set out by the RCVS that you need to achieve to practice as a vet, so it's up to you to get the most out of this. It also isn't limited to vet practices; you can do CEMS in labs or with the APHA (government) and others, but you have a long time to think about things like that!

If you finish all of you AHEMS, you are allowed to begin CEMS from the summer of year two. So because I will have finished all my AHEMS in Easter, I'm doing a placement in the practice I work in over summer and then I plan to go back to a mixed practice I did WEX at for two weeks. I think this is a rule specific to Notts & Surrey but I might be wrong :smile:
Original post by crowleybeans
Hello! I was wondering if you happened to take a gap year before you applied for uni? I'm in year 12 and I'm supposed to apply for uni in October this year, but i dont have any work experience and I know how important it is for vet degrees.. I managed to get a 2 week placement at a vets over the summer and volunteer work at weekends at a stables, but apart from that I dont have anything else. Would you advise I take a gap year to build up my experience? Any advice is appreciated.. thank you!


I was in your position this time last year- I had very little work experience and had only just realised the amount I would need to apply. It became a bit of an obsession but I managed to gain almost 20 weeks by the time I had applied in October- and am (grades dependent!!) going to Nottingham in september. However a gap year is also a brilliant option to gain maturity and even more experience- but it is possible to do if you put your mind to it (and sacrifice all of your holiday!!)
I am really concerned with my biology results atm. Supposed to be having another mock to predict UCAS results, I'm sitting at a C but I got a D in the last rounds of mocks. I'm really worried that I won't be ablw to apply for veterinary science next year.
Original post by VictiniCup
I am really concerned with my biology results atm. Supposed to be having another mock to predict UCAS results, I'm sitting at a C but I got a D in the last rounds of mocks. I'm really worried that I won't be ablw to apply for veterinary science next year.


Don't! Mock results aren't always reflective of your ultimate grade. I know A levels work differently now but when I did AS chem I got an E (in my actual exams, not even my mocks fml). I spoke to my college and resat AS chemistry and did a third year. Boom, I pulled it up to an A (B after sitting A2) here I am in my second year at Nottingham. Also, if your application is weak academically could be worth looking into gateway/access courses. Here is the one at Nottingham http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/ugstudy/courses/veterinarymedicineandscience/veterinary-medicine-surgery-gateway-year.aspx
Could someone comment on my work experience, if I'm missing anything important or just some advice in general would be great. If I end up being rejected I don't want it to be because of my wex :frown:

Done:
3 weeks SA vet
5 weeks lambing
1 week city farm
1 week animal rescue (rspca)
1 day small animal rescue

Booked/planned:
1 week stables
2 weeks SA vet
1 week exotic zoo
2 days equine vet
1 day abbatoir
1 day lab
1 week - ????

It adds up to about 16 weeks which doesn't really seem like much...
Thanks in advance
Original post by Nessie162
Could someone comment on my work experience, if I'm missing anything important or just some advice in general would be great. If I end up being rejected I don't want it to be because of my wex :frown:

Done:
3 weeks SA vet
5 weeks lambing
1 week city farm
1 week animal rescue (rspca)
1 day small animal rescue

Booked/planned:
1 week stables
2 weeks SA vet
1 week exotic zoo
2 days equine vet
1 day abbatoir
1 day lab
1 week - ????

It adds up to about 16 weeks which doesn't really seem like much...
Thanks in advance


You could do some dairy if necessary as that's the only thing I can see that's missing. The number of weeks only matters when it comes to applying to Liverpool, the rest aren't overly fussed about work experience and they only ask that you have the minimum which is something like 5 weeks.


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Original post by Lizziefickling
You could do some dairy if necessary as that's the only thing I can see that's missing. The number of weeks only matters when it comes to applying to Liverpool, the rest aren't overly fussed about work experience and they only ask that you have the minimum which is something like 5 weeks.


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The entry requirements for Liverpool are apparently changing for next year- I think it might be 5-7 weeks now as a pose to 10

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