Opinions on "dirty" jobs?

Don't act naive. You were asking if he was white because he didn't want to do "dirty jobs". Poles are white and do those jobs.

Unless of course you were asking because you're worried he'll get sunburned if he's not careful as it's nearly summer.

I asked him if he was white because I was curious. There would have been no follow up to it.

Thank you for your assumptions but as you are part of the TSR Support Team why don't you go actually do something useful and sort out all the trolls on this site what are stirring up s*hit without the need for their actions to be assumed.

Yeah, of course, absolutely no underlying motive. when I'm engaged in debate on here I always ask people their race. I mean it's obviously so important to the debate.

You're just upset someone called you out on your bull****.

Where did he say only women should do it? And why didn't your mother/father take care of their parents?


>Slavs
>White

Well maybe that's what you do but I was just curious. Can I just ask why you felt the need to interject anyway? Why don't you have a chat with the other person who actually said that the point of race is relevant? He's the one you should follow up your assumption with.

No I am not upset but if I was it's because you're making assumptions. I asked a question with no follow up or malice intended.

Of course.

I hate it when people say British people don't want to do these jobs. What they really mean is British people don't want to do it for next to no money. Pay a decent wage and people will clean toilets for it.

What's a decent wage for such job in your mind then? To be honest, I'd do such work even if it was below minimum wage because it's still money.

Its not people don't want to do these jobs its that the work is humiliating and wages a pittance, along with humiliating people think they are better than cleaners my mums friend has 2 degrees but as her age she has to do cleaning work for people who think shes basically uneducated riff raff not someone with firsts in 2 degrees and was put out of work after 25 years.

This is zero hour work and doesn't pay enough so she goes without heating and electric for days at a time.

Have you seen some peoples toilets? My mum went for a few jobs years back before the Europeans did most of the work and lets say a certain ethnic group she went to clean for left toilets covered in human waste, and thought she was stupid as she was female (didn't want male cleaners) and tried paying her £1 a hour so she knew her place both as a woman and due to being on low income.

I don't have a number. A good wage is what you can get people to do the job for. If people aren't doing the job you want for the money you are offering, you need to up your wage.

Employers who set the wage at £5 and then moan than they are not getting good quality workers have themselves to blame. You get what you pay for. Set the wage at £20 an hour and you will have people falling over themselves go clean the toilets.

There is no right to have workers for minimum wage. If people won't scrub your toilets for £3 an hour, I think you should pay more or clean your own toilet. Not moan that natives are lazy and ship in people who are prepared to do it for such a cheap price.

Totally agree with that part and feel sorry for cleaners who have to deal with trashy people who cannot even do it properly on a toilet.. At my current workplace, some guys make such a mess in men's toilets that it puts me off from even using them Even a simple flush is a mission impossible for some of them Cleaners should be paid more than what they currently get because of the nature of the job.

If it wasn't already clear, lets just say the ethnic group involved ate a lot of spicy food so imagine how much worse it is!

If they'd set an hourly rate of £20 then surely all other job roles should also have an increase.. But if you were an employer, I mean a genuine one, would you pay that much?

Absolutely. Wiping y arses isn't anyone's idea of fun, but it has to be done as part of the job, and they do it whilst respecting the other person's dignity.

No-one has mentioned people who work at being Care Assistants in thousands of old people's homes and on elderly people's hospital wards. They have to wipe the backsides of elderly people after they've taken a s hit for them because they cannot do it themselves. Utter respect to them.

I'd recover surprisingly quickly believe me.

No, not prostitution
I refer to work such as cleaning (toilets, streets or inside/outside buildings), rubbish collection, recycling plant and sewage treatment roles.
It seems that a lot of the native population, including those from poor backgrounds, are put off from ever doing that kind of work even when they're desperate for money. Is there a reason for that?