Why does anyone think voting tory is a good idea?

Do you have Boris as your avatar out of irony or do you not care that he's an appalling excuse for a human being?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2013/mar/24/boris-johnson-accused-nasty-video

Because. The guardian is a great example of unbiased high brown reporting of late... Oh.... Hang on a moment.

In case you didn't follow the link, it being The Guardian is irrelevant. It's from a BBC interview, and even if you don't judge the BBC to be reputable, the source is irrelevant, it's pure simple facts of things the man has done, and his pathetic attempt to weasel out from them.

Except have you seen the recent labour manifesto leak? Or the shadow Chancellor saying Marx-leneism is the way to go. (note proper socialism has never worked, not in a single country. I'm not even talking full blown communism there either. It works for select services/sectors such as for health services but that's about it and even that has serious issues). Actually look at the rhetoric corbyn is spouting aswell. That comparison actually isn't that far our there.

In case you didn't follow the link, it being The Guardian is irrelevant. It's from a BBC interview, and even if you don't judge the BBC to be reputable, the source is irrelevant, it's pure simple facts of things the man has done, and his pathetic attempt to weasel out from them.

The Labour Government is the best option we have to saving this country. The tories have destroyed the country to the extent that nurses are going to food banks, homelessness has risen across the country, education standards are dodgy, while the rich are getting richer.

Voting Tory is a good idea if: 1) you are rich and hate the poor, 2) want the welfare system abolished, 3) want the NHS abolished 4) read the daily mail, and believe what they see on the endless channel 5 to shows demonising people on benefits and 5) are a vile racist and hate Europe.

If that's you then your a true Tory through and through.

Nurses who's salary is higher than the national average wage and who's minimum starting wage is only 5k below the national average wage.... yea ok it's their pay that drove them to a food bank 😂

There are no accurate figures for homelessness but when prices for having a roof over your head rise, homelessness would also rise.

There are 1.8 million more kids in a school classed as good or outstanding than before they came in..... hardly dodgy.

The rich always get richer, we live in a capitalist system and all the quantitive easing we have done pushes asset prices through the roof....

You say how stupid people are and list a load of *******s that means nothing, it's you that doesn't have a clue.



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Has it never occurred to you that not all Tories are, as you so maladroitly phrase it, vile racists , but vote Conservative because, for them, there is no viable alternative? You vote Labour (or whatever it is you vote) because it suits your needs most, for some people voting Tory suits them most.
Why do people struggle accepting the fact that no one political party is going to suit everyone? It's up to each individual person what they want to vote and they shouldn't be attacked in any way for that.

The choice is basically either an unproven government with such bold promises that people are sceptical of in Labour.

Or a well proven and highly effective government in the Conservatives. The problem is I don't mean that as a compliment. The conservatives have been incredibly effective at pushing down the quality of living for normal people. Britain being a country with a healthy growing economy, yet the only country in Europe other than Greece with a decline in average people's real earnings. Austerity measures that are decimating health care with an NHS on the brink. Cuts to social care that has cost lives. Cuts to education while pushing for a tiered system in grammar schools that has historically favoured the already affluent.

If you vote for the Conservatives you are electing a government that is highly competent at doing what it does. But what it does is hurting you. Maybe Labours plans are pie in the sky, but given how many countries around the world successfully provide high standards of living to average people without worrying about being a large global economy isn't it worth taking a chance on?

I'd sooner put my faith in a man I don't know can do the job he's claiming he can do, but at least wants to do the job we need someone to do rather than a woman I know for sure can do the job she's planning on doing which will harm 95% of the people in this country.

Okay.

First of all, please get your facts right. The nursing salary varies according to hospital and nature of work. The average starting salary is about £21k. This average then rises to about £28k depending on the experience and other factors. However, this is not often the case because i directly know people who get paid less than £21k. Unfortunately, their salaries are not as fantastic and you seem to put it.

Even with that salary, the number of hours worked should make paying such a ridiculous amount to be banned.

As you stated, the rising cost of living should be reflected by the rising cost of wages, which have not gone up. These coupled with taking care of families would push them towards food banks.

For homelessness, when cost of living goes up, the government needs to invest more and not remove resources. The thought that you seem to be content with homelessness in some way, is deeply worrying.

Education is one of the numerous cases where government costs are destroying the system. If the number of pupils in a school rise, then surely the investment should rise and not fall?

I think that people like you have been fed a lie and believe in a dog eat dog world of Tory capitalist society.

I hope that everyone gets their karma and you feel the pain that people feel everyday under the Tory Government.

Finally, you dont really know me, so dont assume that i dont have a clue. I may be closer to the truth than you think.

If we claim to NEVER use our nuclear weapons no matter what that leaves us in a massive danger zone.

Because scrapping tuition fees is such a brilliant plan isn't it?

All of my facts were correct average nurse starting salary is 22k which is 28k in London. With overtime and unsocial hours payments it's even more. Average salary is 27k uk wide.

If they need to use food banks then so do 10's of millions of other people but they don't do this whole nurses using food banks point is *******s. Any nurse who is using them is bad at budgeting.

I don't hate the homeless or anything like that but until enough social and private houses are built it will just get worse as housing costs are massive out of people's budgets.

It's a fact 1.8 million more kids are in good and outstanding schools regardless of what's happened/happening to budgets.

You can spin what you like but they are all facts


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I am not trying spin. I am just trying to portray what it is like to live in austerity britain.

Not all nurses, get the benefits that you seem to claim. Like i said before, i know people who struggle with the current system. A friend who is a nurse has a contracted 11:30 hours per day and her final salary is about £20850. When you add the odd overtime that she does it comes up to £23450. That is her working more than 55 hours per week.

With rising costs, one can see that she cannot even reach the average salary, when she clocks more time than the average worker does.

The fact of 1.8million pupils is a positive despite tory cuts to education budgets. You have teachers, administrators and other heads campaigning for more support. Yet, there is the barely minimum.

You have confirmed my point with housing that we need more investment over drastic and deep cuts. How can we build 1 million new homes, when the government is asking local councils to look for more ways to "save" money? Despite there being no money to save.

The truth of the matter is that people are suffering under a harsh tory government. This was very similar to the Tatcher Government.

All I ask is that people wake up and say enough is enough. Else, the tories will push more people off the cliff.