Why Are You Voting Tory?

Hi, I would like to hear some peoples honest reasons why they are voting tory. I didn't know about parties and politics a couple months ago, but as i done research, I came to my own conclusion that Tory is a party for the wealthy, made to make the rich, richer and the poor, poorer. But i would like to have other opinions about tory, who knows, maybe you could make me change my vote to tory after this discussion

The conservative party only works by helping out ordinary people, not making the rich richer or the poor poorer.

How can you say this, yet support the party which is cutting services such as education and the NHS, two things which are vital for ordinary people?

That is absolutely not true. It was the conservative party that first gave normal working class people the vote, the ability to buy their house.

The conservative party only works by helping out ordinary people, not making the rich richer or the poor poorer. Indeed, we have higher income tax for people earning over £150,000 a year now than we did under labour, and lower income tax for people earning under £20,000 than we did under labour.

The idea the conservatives are only for the rich is a complete misrepresentation of the truth and political spin from their opponents.

The conservative party are the party of self improvement, and social mobility. Whilst it is the labour party's intention (not new labour to be fair, but certainly current labour and old labour) to shackle people to the state by making them dependent on welfare rather than really helping them to prosper and succeed. The conservatives are the party of aspiration, while the labour party continually work against this.

And if you look at the current labour leadership, Jeremy Corbyn, he was born into a very wealthy middle class family. He went to a grammar school and squandered all the opportunities given to him. I happen to believe this is the issue with socialism, it squanders potential and oppertunity.

Because I'm not a terrorist sympathizer and I don't believe in magic money trees.

I really do not think Conservatives is the party for self improvement and social mobility, they promised we would be out of debt by 2020. We are actually worse in debt now. And I'm sorry, but i really disagree with the social mobility,- they've scrapped housing benefit for 18-21 year olds, making people like me worse of, increased tuition (i can go on)
And when i said making the rich the richer, i think this because they've cut inheritance tax for the rich, that means if you inherit 1 million pounds, you can now be left inheritance-tax-free, benefiting just 22,000 families (who are Conservatives rich friends).

But housing benefit hinders social mobility. It keeps people dependent on the state, discouraging aspiration. Giving people free handouts is not what helps people to become more affluent and prosperous. It is education, opportunities and providing an easy environment to start small businesses that increases social mobility.

Dependence on the state will never make anybody successful.

And by debt i'm going to assume you mean national debt. The only way to clear national debt by 2020 would be to stop funding for ALL public services for two years, whilst continuing to collect more taxes. That would mean no benefits, no NHS, no schools, no police, no army, no firemen. Literally Nothing. Our national debt is in the trillions of pounds. The conservative have never promised to clear our national debt, because frankly it is impossible. What they did do is promise to reduce the deficit (which sounds like debt but isn't). That mean the amount of EXTRA money we borrow every year. So far that has reduced by 66%. We still borrow £50bn a year adding to the £1.6 trillion of debt we have.

Also in terms of inheritance tax, many people have homes over £1m. Half the houses in the london commuter town where I live are way over that limit. Having a £1m house doesn't make you rich, it just makes you a Londoner with an average London job.

I cannot comment on your individual situation of course, but what I can say, if you want to be prosperous in the long term, the conservative are the party to make that happen, just as long as you work hard and don't live your life off the state. It might lead to you losing some state benefits in the short term, but ultimately the job opportunities that are created by the conservatives through low corporate taxation, and high investment in roads, railways, airports, grammar schools etc will benefit everyone.

Well labour would tank the economy putting working class people out of jobs as multinationals would move abroad. How can labour say they would represent this class in society when they would only worsen these people's situations. An unfreeze on the public sector pay would also cause mass inflation. National debt would increase harming our potential to borrow in the future for a tory government to fix yet another labour mess

as i done research, I came to my own conclusion that Tory is a party for the wealthy, made to make the rich, richer and the poor, poorer.

I very much doubt you came to that conclusion through genuine research. It's just a stereotype invented by the working class; most of whom despise honest, hard-working folk who are more responsible and get to where they are by making sensible life decisions. "The more you make, the more we take" is a deeply immoral way of looking at freedom in a capitalist society.

I'm voting Tory because of Brexit and immigration, two things I wouldn't trust Labour ever managing in their current climate.

I think that the argument about rich and poor isn't as simple as taxes here. Be prepared for that to be a focus of many replies to this thread who overlook things like pay and working conditions, and public services used primarily by poorer people.

I get the impression from tory voting friends that their motives are economic; they believe that a better economy would outweigh the loss of public services. Labour voting friends disagree over priorities, arguing that the main aim of a government should be public services like the NHS, even if the economy suffers.

Based on their record, this government would continue to dismantle the NHS, police and other public services, but could potentially make the UK more attractive and open to international businesses and financial services.

The kind of Labour government that Corbyn is suggesting hasn't really existed before, but they seem likely to strengthen public services like mental health provision and the police, while making the UK less attractive to foreign investors.

That was my attempt at a fair analysis. I fully expect angry tory voters to pretend that the NHS is somehow safe under their government, or angry Labour voters to talk about how their economic plans are wonderful now

I really do not think Conservatives is the party for self improvement and social mobility, they promised we would be out of debt by 2020. We are actually worse in debt now. And I'm sorry, but i really disagree with the social mobility,- they've scrapped housing benefit for 18-21 year olds, making people like me worse of, increased tuition (i can go on)
And when i said making the rich the richer, i think this because they've cut inheritance tax for the rich, that means if you inherit 1 million pounds, you can now be left inheritance-tax-free, benefiting just 22,000 families (who are Conservatives rich friends).

what will happen if we're gonna have to do a no deal lol.

And why would you trust Thersea more than Jeremy at a brexit deal since she voted remain herself?

You are failing to realise some people NEED to have benefits, there are disabled people who are living and being treated like animals due to the cuts Tory has made ([video="youtube;3fbUqcc2bGs"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fbUqcc2bGs[/video]). People need help from the government to raise their children right so they can have a good life.

Yes I meant deficit, Tories indeed promised that the deficit would be 'eliminated' by 2015, UK’s debt has increased by £555 billion since the Tories came to power.

The inheritance tax only benefits around 22,000 families. Figures also show that this tax will most benefit the Tory-held areas. And it has actually lost a total of £1 billion which could've been spent on our economy since we are in **** loads of debt, the 1 billion clearly could've been spent on schools and hospitals.
I still disagree, you haven't really shown me how Tory has made the UK any better. You seem to ignore the people who need benefits because they can't actually work, and they need to be 'aspired' to work... I still think Tories are picking on the young, old and the disabled.