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This guy won only 3 more seats than Gordon Brown who is widely touted as being one of the worst Labour leaders in modern history and he's smiling like he's won the election. I understand he did better than the commentators expected but absolute success is what matters rather than relative success.

Corbyn is the Arsenal of politicians celebrating failure like its something to be proud of.
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he is smiling because his handlers at Moscow centre have given him a substantial pay rise.
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he is smiling because his handlers at Moscow centre have given him a substantial pay rise.
Someone has to now the Qataris are getting blockaded.
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Only if May does as well
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He gained 30+ seats, engaged the youth in voting, and defied all expectations, why should he resign? From being 20 points behind in opinion polls, to a hung parliament is a massive achievement, especially after all of the media bias he has been facing. Even blairites have been forced to admit they were wrong.

With the conservatives in such a precarious position, anything could happen if another election is called, which is the most likely case. Many tory voters will have lost faith in Theresa May if she refuses to step down after such a disasterous result for the conservatives, especially now they're scheming with the DUP.
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No way, what are you on about?!
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No but I want to see John McDonnell replaced as Shadow Chancellor.
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Ofc he wont resign he helped save Labour from a 200 seat pummeling.
I might think hed be absolutely useless as a PM and many of his policies are fanciful and misguided, but he played a blinder.
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He gained 30+ seats, engaged the youth in voting, and defied all expectations, why should he resign? From being 20 points behind in opinion polls, to a hung parliament is a massive achievement, especially after all of the media bias he has been facing. Even blairites have been forced to admit they were wrong.

With the conservatives in such a precarious position, anything could happen if another election is called, which is the most likely case. Many tory voters will have lost faith in Theresa May if she refuses to step down after such a disasterous result for the conservatives, especially now they're scheming with the DUP.
He failed to beat one of the most incompetent governments this country has ever had. This is the battle of the reserve teams.

If Tony Blair were here, Labour would be on 400+ seats.
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You wish, lol. Absolutely not.
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You wish, lol. Absolutely not.
Ignoring my personal ideology and thinking purely pragmatically, yes I do wish he'd go so a professional and competent Blairite opposition can restore some sense to the country.
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Ignoring my personal ideology and thinking purely pragmatically, yes I do wish he'd go so a professional and competent Blairite opposition can restore some sense to the country.
Labour is a left wing, socialist party. Having a Labour party headed by a Blairite is not opposition, it is just Conservative party 2.0.

Corbyn has increased the number of seats for Labour with the majority of the media against him, and knifes in his back from his own party. Now that he has proven himself, he is far from incompetent. He is quite the opposite, and he will continue to propel the Labour party in the coming weeks/months/years.
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He's smiling so much because he's made millions of students fall for his deceptive, un-costed manifesto of free tuition, £10 an hour etc...


That man would bankrupt our country!
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He's smiling so much because he's made millions of students fall for his deceptive, un-costed manifesto of free tuition, £10 an hour etc...


That man would bankrupt our country!
Could you now explain to me how it is uncosted? Please break down his manifesto and tell me how it is uncosted.

My guess is you are copy and pasting that all too common soundbite without doing any research, or thinking for that matter.
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He has fought the most successful campaign ever in terms of turning around the polls in the time in had. He did all that when everybody was against him.

Imagine if his party had supported him rather than sticking to the line of the conservatives and the media that Corbyn is unfit to lead. He could have won a majority.

Most of the parliamentary party saw the election as a good chance to get rid of him as leader rather than an opportunity to get into government.

Now they will have to change their mind and Corbyn can do better next time.

I'm very surprised by the result. I don't agree with his policies and I didn't think there was public appetite for them but there obviously is. You can't deny he lead a great campaign.

He connects with voters and has an integrity that people are crying out for. People have had enough of scheming politicians like Blair, Cameron and May who just tell us what they think we what to hear.
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(Original post by The Great Game)
This guy won only 3 more seats than Gordon Brown who is widely touted as being one of the worst Labour leaders in modern history and he's smiling like he's won the election. I understand he did better than the commentators expected but absolute success is what matters rather than relative success.

Corbyn is the Arsenal of politicians celebrating failure like its something to be proud of.
You completely misunderstand this, as well as much of the right-wing commentators appear to be doing on TV. He has been getting abuse right, left and centre. The mainstream media, other party MPs, his own MPs and Labour figureheads. People doubted him and many secretly wanted this GE to be a disaster for Labour to get rid of him. Against all odds and 20%+ down in polls he went against all odds.

He not only increased the vote share and gained 30+ seats, he also encouraged many young people to get interested in politics and actually cast their vote. He inspired people. He led to a situation where his biggest critics like Wes Streeting, Owen Smith and Alastair Campbell acknowledged that they were wrong about him and that he clearly has a mandate to lead the Labour party to a victory come next general election. That's massive. I believe that now, a united Labour party will decide on the shadow cabinet reshuffle. It'll lead to talent moving into key positions and some deadwood being moved out or to junior roles. This is a win because Labour party will build on its momentum and it'll absolutely own the next GE.
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He's not stepping down as leader he did well in this elections and his loyal corbynites won't allow him to step down. So I guess we're stuck with him for now.
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You completely misunderstand this, as well as much of the right-wing commentators appear to be doing on TV. He has been getting abuse right, left and centre. The mainstream media, other party MPs, his own MPs and Labour figureheads. People doubted him and many secretly wanted this GE to be a disaster for Labour to get rid of him. Against all odds and 20%+ down in polls he went against all odds.

He not only increased the vote share and gained 30+ seats, he also encouraged many young people to get interested in politics and actually cast their vote. He inspired people. He led to a situation where his biggest critics like Wes Streeting, Owen Smith and Alastair Campbell acknowledged that they were wrong about him and that he clearly has a mandate to lead the Labour party to a victory come next general election. That's massive. I believe that now, a united Labour party will decide on the shadow cabinet reshuffle. It'll lead to talent moving into key positions and some deadwood being moved out or to junior roles. This is a win because Labour party will build on its momentum and it'll absolutely own the next GE.
For the past 5 days the media has been saying Jerry had the momentum behind him and he only got 262 seats, he's held to far lower standards than Theresa has been and had the Tories put out a leader with an ounce of charisma he'd have been slaughtered.
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For the past 5 days the media has been saying Jerry had the momentum behind him and he only got 262 seats, he's held to far lower standards than Theresa has been and had the Tories put out a leader with an ounce of charisma he'd have been slaughtered.
You must be a magician because without it actually happening, all you have is your imagination. The reality is that Tories decided to run the election on the strong and stable character of Theresa May which became an utter joke, led to a lost majority and embarrassment. Historically, losing Tory leaders don't hang on for long. I suggest you hope that the next leader will be stronger and more stable.
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Labour is a left wing, socialist party. Having a Labour party headed by a Blairite is not opposition, it is just Conservative party 2.0.

Corbyn has increased the number of seats for Labour with the majority of the media against him, and knifes in his back from his own party. Now that he has proven himself, he is far from incompetent. He is quite the opposite, and he will continue to propel the Labour party in the coming weeks/months/years.
totally agree
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