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Black Lives Matter protest in Berlin

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Reply 1

aeroline1999

Original post by Mathemagicien

[video="youtube;lA1GqIU0WmA"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA1GqIU0WmA[/video]

Oh ffs. If they're anything like their violent racist American counterparts....

Reply 2

Pagan91

Bunch of crybabies. Imagine whites in SA doing this.

Reply 3

Ash8991

This BLM stuff is absolute bullsh*t and ironically racist; shouldn't all lives matter?

Reply 4

aeroline1999

Original post by Mathemagicien

Probably less violent, but more racist, even in western Germany.

I genuinely don't see the need for these kinds of protests. In Western Europe there is more equality between races, genders and sexualities than anywhere else in the world, equality is enshrined within law, and any individual cases should be reported to the police as they are criminal offences. Theft is also illegal, doesn't mean it never happens, but the solution is to report it to the police, not to wine and protest for something that short of changing equality laws to make ethnic minorities superior within the eyes of the law through positive discrimination (which is an absolutely abhorrent idea) there is nothing more that can be done, and frankly causing all that ruckus is only going to damage their reputation and fuel the any hatred and resentment there might be.

In the words of Morgan Freeman "If you want to stop racism, stop talking about race"

Reply 5

aeroline1999

Original post by Ash8991

This BLM stuff is absolute bullsh*t and ironically racist; shouldn't all lives matter?

I agree but their response would be "its black lives matter TOO!"

Reply 6

Pagan91

Original post by Mathemagicien

That doesn't work. The vast majority of racism is subtle and often even unintentional. You need to point it out to people before it gets addressed, because people (mostly white people) will assume it doesn't exist; that they couldn't possibly be racist, because 'only Nazis are racist, and I'm no Nazi'.

Everyone is racist get over it.

Reply 7

username1801813

Original post by Mathemagicien

It means Black lives matter AS WELL as other lives. It doesn't mean ONLY Black lives matter.

ikr jesus christ anyone who doesn't understand that by now is genuinely lost fml

Reply 8

Dot.Cotton

Why? What for? I see no reason why these loons need to protest against anything.

Reply 9

aeroline1999

Original post by Mathemagicien

No, I think that pointing it out all the time breeds identity politics which is what puts people into little groups competing against each other for who deserves the most sympathy for their oppression and societal discrimination.

I think the only way to stop racism is to stop viewing other people as being part of different groups, start thinking of the human race, not the black, white asian races etc.

Reply 10

fab23

Wait is this still going on??? thought that died with 2016!!

Reply 11

aeroline1999

Original post by Mathemagicien

Lets just ignore racism and hope it goes away, right?

Fact is that racism is hardwired into humans - studies have shown that there is racist behaviour that isn't learnt - and so you do have to actively work to counter it, because the natural state is not free of racism.

I don't contest that prejudice is hardwired into humans, but I think thats is more a fear of the unknown rather than a hardwired racism, which informs my position that the only way to end racism is to stop making the distinction, and to better integrate people with each other.

Reply 12

aeroline1999

Original post by Mathemagicien

Toddlers in even the most diverse schools exhibit racism; they have to be actively taught racism is wrong.

The distinction is always there - pretending that they cannot see race is a harmful and cowardly lie people tell themselves to avoid self-reflection; only a legitimately blind and deaf person could reasonably claim this.

I also don't think racism is necessarily a problem. It is the expression of racism through violence or hate speech that is the issue. This is much more a matter of politeness and common decency than anything else.

Generally speaking, people avoid being intentionally malicious when unprovoked and keep their prejudices to themselves.

Reply 13

aeroline1999

Original post by Mathemagicien

Well, at least you are honest.

What do you mean by that? Thoughts themselves don't cause harm, and any attempts to police thoughts is, by definition, Orwellian.

Reply 14

Ash8991

Original post by Mathemagicien

It means Black lives matter AS WELL as other lives. It doesn't mean ONLY Black lives matter.

Well, with how things are going right now, and how supposedly "All White people are racist", it would seem that only Black lives matter to them. But if they actually had the slogan "Black lives matter too", I wouldn't be so critical of them.

Reply 15

username521617

The more bizarre, obnoxious protests the better. It's the behavior of a movement trying to cling on to cultural relevancy as the general public gradually turns against them. Their antics unwittingly accelerates this process.

They also keep showing up to Pride parades (which have nothing to do with them) and try to force their agenda into them. Naturally, journalists are obligated to portray them as nothing but righteous social warriors standing up against oppression, whereas the average bystander wishes they'd just screw off. Their movement is hardly even relevant here in Canada, but that doesn't stop them from barging into everything

Reply 16

3121

Original post by Ash8991

This BLM stuff is absolute bullsh*t and ironically racist; shouldn't all lives matter?

I do think it's a shame they don't realise other people share their difficulties, but I Think the name was more like a "hello, we matter too" rather than "black lives should matter than yours"

Reply 17

loveleest

Original post by Ash8991

lol I love it when simple minded people pretend they don't know what blm means; hilarious.

Reply 18

SirMilkSheikh

Their lives don't matter at all lol.

Reply 19

Ash8991

Original post by loveleest

lol I love it when simple minded people pretend they don't know what blm means; hilarious.

I know that fundamentally, it means "Black lives matter too" but from what I've seen on youtube, BLM activists use it as an excuse to hit back at White people....for something their ancestors may or may not have done a couple of centuries ago. So yes I do know what it means, both fundamentally and in reality.