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Private candidate confusion regarding AS reforms...?

So I'm applying to do my exams (AS and A2, for further maths and maths) in 2018 summer and I'm wondering if I have to sit AS levels for physics (which has reformed I think). If they don't count I really don't want to be paying for the AS modules in 2018. Thanks! (I have asked around Unis but yeah, they're slow :P)
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Reply 1
Original post by august11
So I'm applying to do my exams (AS and A2, for further maths and maths) in 2018 summer and I'm wondering if I have to sit AS levels for physics (which has reformed I think). If they don't count I really don't want to be paying for the AS modules in 2018. Thanks! (I have asked around Unis but yeah, they're slow :P)

@Reality Check has pretty much covered everything. :smile:
Reply 2
Original post by Reality Check
You don't have to sit the AS if you don't want to - it no longer has units that count towards the full A level qualification: you sit the exams for this after the end of 2 years.


Yeah but will I still have to do the six units for my a level Physics qual or just the ones considered a level (3 units)? Sorry, really confused. I'm not going through a college so I'm not talking about sitting the a-level separately or anything.

Thank you :smile:
Reply 3
Original post by S2M
@Reality Check has pretty much covered everything. :smile:


Yeah, except I'm an idiot that complicates everything :P
Reply 4
Original post by Reality Check
OK - the full A level qualification now has three two-hour examination papers taken at the end of the second year of study. There are no 'units' which count towards the qualification any longer - it isn't 'unitised' now. So if what you want to do is the full A level, AS has no bearing - the system has entirely changed.

So, no units to take. No AS exams to take in the first year. Just three, two-hour papers at the end of the second year, covering the entire course.


Okay, awesome. This saves me a lot of bother and money I think XD. Thanks a lot for explaining.
Reply 5
Original post by august11
Yeah, except I'm an idiot that complicates everything :P


Basically, AS exams you can do them at the end of Y12 if you want. If you don't want to do AS exams then you can sit them with A2 because AS doesn't go towards A2 anymore, it's a standalone qualification.
Reply 6
Original post by Reality Check
OK - the full A level qualification now has three two-hour examination papers taken at the end of the second year of study. There are no 'units' which count towards the qualification any longer - it isn't 'unitised' now. So if what you want to do is the full A level, AS has no bearing - the system has entirely changed.

So, no units to take. No AS exams to take in the first year. Just three, two-hour papers at the end of the second year, covering the entire course.


Say as in A-Level Maths has 5 exams for the new one I think. Are you saying you don't have to do the two you can only take 3 for A2?
Reply 7
Original post by Reality Check
Which board is this that has five examinations for the full A level?


I think I have it wrong, I thought it was Edexcel. I checked the specification on AS and it has Paper 1 and Paper 2. I then checked A-Level and that has Paper 1 and 2 then Paper 3. What is this, don't really get it.
Reply 8
Original post by S2M
Basically, AS exams you can do them at the end of Y12 if you want. If you don't want to do AS exams then you can sit them with A2 because AS doesn't go towards A2 anymore, it's a standalone qualification.


Yeah, I don't want to do AS at all. I don't think the Maths and Further Maths have the AS rule Physics and the reformed ones do yet for 2018, which sucks? But is there 5 in the maths for 2018? :O I'm doing maths with Edexcel, Physics with Aqa :smile:
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Reply 9
Original post by august11
Yeah, I don't want to do AS at all. I don't think the Maths and Further Maths have the AS rule Physics and the reformed ones do yet for 2018, which sucks? But is there 5 in the maths for 2018? :O


I checked the specification for maths and in total it does have 5. 2 for AS and 3 for A2 but I'm not sure what it means.
Reply 10
Original post by august11
Yeah, I don't want to do AS at all. I don't think the Maths and Further Maths have the AS rule Physics and the reformed ones do yet for 2018, which sucks? But is there 5 in the maths for 2018? :O I'm doing maths with Edexcel, Physics with Aqa :smile:


Have you found a private exam centre?
Reply 11
Original post by S2M
Have you found a private exam centre?


I'm still rooting around for schools and sixth forms. Do you know any?! I'm in the northwest. I found some really reasonable prices (the ones near me are like 75 a unit or more lol) but they're like 3 hours away by train. And doing 10+ exams I won't be able to swing that haha. I did find a school that's near and is 300 an alevel, so that's good.
Reply 12
Original post by Reality Check
Yes, I think you've got this a bit muddled :smile: The full A level specification is 3 two-hour papers. The AS is 2 two-hour papers. They are separate qualifications, and the examinations are similarly separate. There's no 'adding' the AS exams to the A level ones - that's the way it used to work.

Oh ok! So can you do AS and A2 separately? If A2 is 3 papers, then why do they even have AS?
Reply 13
Original post by august11
I'm still rooting around for schools and sixth forms. Do you know any?! I'm in the northwest. I found some really reasonable prices (the ones near me are like 75 a unit or more lol) but they're like 3 hours away by train. And doing 10+ exams I won't be able to swing that haha. I did find a school that's near and is 300 an alevel, so that's good.


Sorry, I don't know much and there aren't any where I live. The one that offers 300 for an a-Level, is it 300 for any A-Level? For Science will that mean the whole A-Level including practicals?
Reply 14
Original post by S2M
Sorry, I don't know much and there aren't any where I live. The one that offers 300 for an a-Level, is it 300 for any A-Level? For Science will that mean the whole A-Level including practicals?


No I wish haha! The unis I want don't need me to do practicals if I haven't been registered for them :biggrin: The practicals are around 1k for 12 of them, and I'd never pay that, so extortionate :P.
Reply 15
Original post by august11
No I wish haha! The unis I want don't need me to do practicals if I haven't been registered for them :biggrin: The practicals are around 1k for 12 of them, and I'd never pay that, so extortionate :P.


Yeah true. Many universities still want a pass in science practicals. What university do you want to go to? Apparently for practicals for each science it costs £950! :colonhash:
Reply 16
Original post by S2M
Yeah true. Many universities still want a pass in science practicals. What university do you want to go to? Apparently for practicals for each science it costs £950! :colonhash:


Exeter, Surrey or Swansea, but I'll probably get in a safe uni (doubting myself haha). But from memory I think 2 of them don't want practicals (Surrey don't for sure) because I haven't been put down for any so I don't need a pass endorsement :smile: Yeah it's around that, if you get get around it like I have you really shouldn't bother yourself with them, they don't even count to your grade ;/. Just email around :smile:
Reply 17
Original post by august11
Exeter, Surrey or Swansea, but I'll probably get in a safe uni (doubting myself haha). But from memory I think 2 of them don't want practicals (Surrey don't for sure) because I haven't been put down for any so I don't need a pass endorsement :smile: Yeah it's around that, if you get get around it like I have you really shouldn't bother yourself with them, they don't even count to your grade ;/. Just email around :smile:

True. What course is this for?
Reply 18
Original post by S2M
True. What course is this for?


Mechanical Engineering. I know there are better unis for this, but they'll probably be more competitive lol. Btw, checked my emails and Exeter do, although their email was vague lol.


I can confirm that we accept all nature of completed A Levels, with the exception of General Studies, therefore it does not matter the composite of the actual A Level, providing that you complete three full A Levels including the sunbject requirements, in this case a B in both Maths and another Science.
Reply 19
Original post by august11
Mechanical Engineering. I know there are better unis for this, but they'll probably be more competitive lol. Btw, checked my emails and Exeter do, although their email was vague lol.


I can confirm that we accept all nature of completed A Levels, with the exception of General Studies, therefore it does not matter the composite of the actual A Level, providing that you complete three full A Levels including the sunbject requirements, in this case a B in both Maths and another Science.

They got straight to the point. :smile: If you check the really top universities, they all need them. This centre that you've found, do they let you do any science practicals?

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