how is it at all wrong to watch porn?

They were popular but not seen as a high form of entertainment, just like pop music and indeed porn today.

They ARE the same issue because both are ignorance built up by the media. But sure, randomly call me a racist because you have no actual arguments to offer.

Whilst the average person is not likely to travel much, you are imagining a world where immigrants don't exist, where international relations don't exist. Why are there so much support for a wall between the US and Mexico? Did most Americans travel to Mexico and made an informed decision based on that? Why are black people suffering more from unemployment? How did negative or indeed any racial stereotype that comes with discrimination penetrate so deeply still? Held so tightly still? If I'm somehow racist for acknowledging that pop culture contributes much to racism, you are certainly more racist to suggest that racism is not an everyday issue if someone doesn't travel.

Putting aside the fact that you have the burden of proof to show that porn has given people an actual unrealistic expectation, it's still largely a non-issue. At the end of the day, every person has their own sexual preferences so even real life experiences don't apply necessarily; and people have to be good at sex with experience built up anyway, just like with *everything else*.

And I see you have avoided the topic of unrealistic romance altogether now. If your argument is that sex is an everyday issue whilst racism is somehow not, you at least have to acknowledge that romance is an everyday issue.

What country is this?

I'm curious I was looking at something yesterday someone was trying to shame men who watch porn or say that porn degrades women? But what I don't get is don't women and men watch porn? I thought porn was like masturbation etc... I mean I thought it was only natural to like watch. I am actually a virgin and in my mid to early 20's by choice. But have always watched porn since I was 15 and the porn I watched never had women in it to begin with it. So I don't see how it degrades women? Also does porn degrade men too then? Especially men on men porn? I remember when I was younger than 15 I still managed to find a way to find pornographic material. as young as 13 I believe. I don't see how one would say though it's terrible to be one who watches porn? And how is porn wrong for women or men?those who watch or those who make it for that matter?

Firstly, theatre was not declasse entertainment. Even the Queen partook and visited the Globe for the (perhaps not so noble outing) of bear baiting.
To suggest that Queen Elizabeth I would partake in anything publicly that was not of good standing would be a fallacy.

Endemic racism through the media and media portrayal of 'happily ever after' are not the same issue. They have something in common in that the media has skewed them- but resolving one does not resolve the other. They both have historically different stories where one of them involved slavery. You cannot compare the struggles of POC with how the media portrays relationships.

How does porn give us unrealistic ideas of sexual relationships? Take Japan for example. Japan's birthrate is falling dramatically. There are a number of factors for this including the expense of property and the working culture but another factor is Otaku culture.
A survey of Japanese people aged 18-33 found that around 70% of these people were not in a relationship and moreover that 40% of these had never had sexual contact.
Japans porn industry is bigger than anywhere else in the world. And legitimised via popular manga and hentai which people openly read on the train.
In a country where your every sexual whim can be found in paper or on DVD, the reality of sex and relationships passes many by and they are instead invested in icons or host/hostesses. Regarding your point about unrealistic romance- how is somebody who finds tentacle porn arousing going to find an octopus with cute eyes who is going to love them?
The prevalence of novelty porn over actual sex, combined with a repressive sex education program and censorship means that Japan is potentially in lots of trouble due to it's dwindling population.

Building a healthy and satisfying sex life is harder when you don't have a good foundation to start from.
It's like learning a language via memorising words from a dictionary but not knowing how to use grammar.

that ain't a phd and nah 100% related and you never read the books go get said things and come back to me

Firstly, theatre was not declasse entertainment. Even the Queen partook and visited the Globe for the (perhaps not so noble outing) of bear baiting.
To suggest that Queen Elizabeth I would partake in anything publicly that was not of good standing would be a fallacy.

Endemic racism through the media and media portrayal of 'happily ever after' are not the same issue. They have something in common in that the media has skewed them- but resolving one does not resolve the other. They both have historically different stories where one of them involved slavery. You cannot compare the struggles of POC with how the media portrays relationships.

How does porn give us unrealistic ideas of sexual relationships? Take Japan for example. Japan's birthrate is falling dramatically. There are a number of factors for this including the expense of property and the working culture but another factor is Otaku culture.
A survey of Japanese people aged 18-33 found that around 70% of these people were not in a relationship and moreover that 40% of these had never had sexual contact.
Japans porn industry is bigger than anywhere else in the world. And legitimised via popular manga and hentai which people openly read on the train.
In a country where your every sexual whim can be found in paper or on DVD, the reality of sex and relationships passes many by and they are instead invested in icons or host/hostesses. Regarding your point about unrealistic romance- how is somebody who finds tentacle porn arousing going to find an octopus with cute eyes who is going to love them?
The prevalence of novelty porn over actual sex, combined with a repressive sex education program and censorship means that Japan is potentially in lots of trouble due to it's dwindling population.

Building a healthy and satisfying sex life is harder when you don't have a good foundation to start from.
It's like learning a language via memorising words from a dictionary but not knowing how to use grammar.

Do you have trouble reading?

The "chemicals" your brain releases when you're watching porn are:

dopamine - it's a chemical the brain releases as a reward. Humans get them when they eat something good, listen to a good song, meet a person you like, fall in love etc. Are you going to stop having good food because it turns out having good food is just as bad as watching porn?

norepinephrine - you get it when you're asked a question, when you're making a presentation, when you're writing an assignment etc. Are you going to drop out of school since apparently it's just as bad as watching porn?

Having these two kinds of chemicals are good for you - not negative - because they prevent depression, and ironically make you less likely to fall for addiction.

All the other chemicals are released whenever one has sex. Are we going to not have sex altogether?

Just cause something makes you feel happy doesn't mean it's good for you, I don't think you know what you're talking about.

Name a particular study and I will dissect it for you. I don't have the time or the energy to read everything and write a critique for each of them, especially when you're very clearly not listening to begin with.

As a gesture of good will, I will do this one for you: the Your Brain On Porn site is entirely about addiction, not porn-watching per se. All the studies, as far as I can tell, are about what happens if you are addicted to porn, not what happens if you watch porn casually.

Queen Elizabeth and indeed no monarchs visited The Globe. There's this weird myth going about how Elizabeth I really liked Shakespeare and even wrote for him - it's a myth.

King James was the one who really liked theatre and actively partake in it.

You know what else King Jame took part in? Sodomy. And everyone knew about it. Are you suggesting homosexuality was of good standing because His Majesty was also doing it?



An accurate portrayal of love and sex will also not "solve" the love and sex issue. You can hardly teach love and sex is very personal and depends on individual preferences.



Oh. So it's all just speculation?

Even you yourself pointed out the reasons why people are not having sex in Japan - the costs of living, parents tolerating those man-children, a hugely conservative society where sex is a big taboo etc. What evidence exactly do you have to suggest pornography has anything at all to do with that?

To add on that, you are mixing up pop culture and porn - unrealistic expectations of the female bodies in Japan are largely perpetuated by pop culture. The huge boobs in animes, for example. Those are not porn.

Octopus with cute eyes? How about bagel heads then? That's not porn and that's still giving people a weird fetish version of sexual attraction.

I think it's because gay male porn is still slightly more taboo for average audiences. Being a homosexual was only decriminalised in England and Wales in the 1960s.

We've had a longer and more prevalent experience of straight porn which is why I think a lot of popular anti-porn propaganda focuses on female rights as the historically subjugated sex.

Even today there's still that stigma of being a woman involved in the sex industry, whereas if a guy did a porn shoot he'd be 'a bro' and not 'a slut'. There's still a lot of double standards.

I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with porn, but some porn is problematic, and it's hard to tell good from bad. Sometimes the women are coerced or taken advantage of, but you would have no idea based on the video. It's also easy for some people to get hooked on porn or to start watching more and more extreme videos.

On the other hand, there are some concerns about porn I think aren't particularly problematic. For example, the use of porn in a relationship I think is reasonable. Another example is that porn objectifies women - I think porn does objectify women, but I don't think all objectification is bad. In this case, there's simply no way around it, because the pleasure the viewer gets is derived almost entirely on what the girl looks like and what she's doing. Giving porn actresses personalities and back stories would be ridiculous, and people would skip it anyway to get to the good stuff.