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Fantasy cabinet or/and shadow cabinet thread 2017

PM- David Davies
Chancellor- John Redwood
First Sec- Priti Patel
Foreign Sec- Jesse Norman
Home Sec- Robert Halfon
Work Sec- Adam Afriyae
Environmental- Zac Goldsmith
Defence- Tobias Elwood
Education- Anne Milton
Health- Steve Brine
Transport- Paul Maynard
Justice- Sam Gyimah
Business- Margot James
Brexit Secretary- Jacob Rees Mogg International Trade- Dan Hannan
Equalities- Philip Davies (joking, I'd actually scrap it)

And thought I'd do one for labour too. I probably wouldn't vote for it, but I wouldn't be appalled if it won either.
EDIT

Leader: Lisa Nandy
Chancellor: Keir Starmer
Foreign: Hilary Benn
International Trade: Chris Leslie
Brexit Secretary: Neil Coyle
First Sec: Alison McGovern
Health: Rachel Reeves
Defence: John Mann
Business: Ben Bradshaw
Education: Liz Kendall
Home: Tom Watson
Environment: Stella Creasy
Transport: David Lammy
Justice: Liam Byrne
(edited 6 years ago)

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David Davis - Prime Minister
Adam Afriyie - Deputy Prime Minister, First Secretary of State, Cabinet Office Minister
Boris Johnson - Chancellor
Amber Rudd - Foreign Secretary
Iain Duncan Smith - Home Secretary
David Mundell - Defence Secretary
Chris Grayling - Leader of the House of Commons
Michael Gove - International Trade Secretary
Liam Fox - Health Secretary
Sajid Javid - Education Secretary
Priti Patel - Justice Secretary
Andrea Leadsom - Business Secretary
Esther McVey - Work & Pensions Secretary
Dominic Raab - Transport Secretary
Zac Goldsmith - Environmental Secretary
Penny Mordaunt - International Development Secretary
Stephen Crabb - Energy Secretary
John Whittingdale - Culture Secretary
Ross Thompson - Scotland Secretary
David Jones - Wales Secretary
Theresa Villiers - NI Secretary
John Lamont - Whip
Annabel Goldie - Leader of the House of Lords
Ian Duncan - Lords Whip
Nadhim Zahawi - Chief Secretary to the Treasury
Graham Brady - Immigration Minister

Shadow Cabinet

Dan Jarvis - Leader of the Opposition
Gloria De Piero - Shadow Deputy Prime Minister
Yvette Cooper - Shadow Chancellor
Hilary Benn - Shadow Foreign Secretary
Chuka Umunna - Shadow Home Secretary
Liam Byrne - Shadow International Trade Secretary
Maria Eagle - Shadow Defence Secretary
Sir Keir Starmer - Shadow Justice Secretary
Angela Eagle - Shadow Business Secretary
Heidi Alexander - Shadow Health Secretary
Lucy Powell - Shadow Education Secretary
Lisa Nandy - Shadow Work & Pensions Secretary
Clive Lewis - Shadow Communities Secretary
Chris Leslie - Shadow Transport Secretary
Ben Bradshaw - Shadow International Development Secretary
Liz Kendall - Shadow Culture Secretary
Lesley Laird - Shadow Scotland Secretary
Stephen Kinnock - Shadow Wales Secretary
Vernon Coaker - Shadow Northern Ireland Secretary
Rachel Reeves - Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury
Tom Watson - Whip
(edited 6 years ago)
Reply 2
prime minister: nigel farage, obviously
deputy: jacob rees-mogg - farage needs a butler
foreign sec: boris - might as well leave him where he is now
chancellor: daniel hannan - a guy who's actually surprisingly spot on vis-a-vis economics
home: andrea lebsom - the better version of theresa may, so why not
transport: sajjid javid - his father was a bus driver :wink:
health - liam fox - lol
Reply 3
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Reply 4
Original post by Marc575
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Forgot about Lisa Nandy, excellent choice

(Way to the left of me but seems thoroughly decent and common sensical)
Reply 5
Original post by Davij038
Forgot about Lisa Nandy, excellent choice

(Way to the left of me but seems thoroughly decent and common sensical)

The cabinet is probably still a bit to the right of me economically and I'm a bit uncertain about Healey as Chancellor but it's a struggle finding left wing MPs of any stature who are sound on foreign and defence policy. There's no way I could keep someone like McDonnell in place (despite agreeing with him economically) because of issues like his IRA connections.
Reply 6
Original post by Marc575
The cabinet is probably still a bit to the right of me economically and I'm a bit uncertain about Healey as Chancellor but it's a struggle finding left wing MPs of any stature who are sound on foreign and defence policy. There's no way I could keep someone like McDonnell in place (despite agreeing with him economically) because of issues like his IRA connections.


John cryer may be a good choice for you ...
Reply 7
Original post by Davij038
John cryer may be a good choice for you ...

That's a good shout actually completely forgot about him.
Reply 8
Original post by Davij038
PM- David Davies
Chancellor- John Redwood
First Sec- Priti Patel
Foreign Sec- Jesse Norman
Home Sec- Robert Halfon
Work Sec- Adam Afriyae
Environmental- Zac Goldsmith
Defence- Tobias Elwood
Education- Anne Milton
Health- Steve Brine
Transport- Paul Maynard
Justice- Sam Gyimah
Business- Margot James
Brexit Secretary- Jacob Rees Mogg International Trade- Dan Hannan
Equalities- Philip Davies (joking, I'd actually scrap it)

And thought I'd do one for labour too. I probably wouldn't vote for it, but I wouldn't be appalled if it won either.
EDIT

Leader: Lisa Nandy
Chancellor: Keir Starmer
Foreign: Hilary Benn
International Trade: Chris Leslie
Brexit Secretary: Neil Coyle
First Sec: Alison McGovern
Health: Rachel Reeves
Defence: John Mann
Business: Ben Bradshaw
Education: Liz Kendall
Home: Tom Watson
Environment: Stella Creasy
Transport: David Lammy
Justice: Liam Byrne


PM - Lord Hague
Chancellor - Jacob Reece Mogg MP
First Sec - Ruth Davidson SMP
Foreign Sec - Steven Crabb MP
Home Sec - Theresa May MP
Work Sec - Robert Halfon MP
Communities and Local Government - Daniel Hannan MEP
Constitutional Reform - Zac Goldsmith MP
Environmental - Nicky Morgan MP
Defence - Rory Stewart MP (actually want foreign sec but needed a top spot for Crabb, my punt for PM from the Commons)
Education - Michael Gove MP
Health - Jeremy Hunt MP
Transport - Esther Mcvey MP
Justice - Amber Rudd MP
Business - Lord Willets
Brexit Secretary- David Davis MP
International Trade - Liam Fox MP
Culture, Media and Sport - Philip Davies MP
Chairman - Boris Johnson MP

Ian Duncan Smith would be ejected from the party and George Osbourne put as candidate for his seat.
Reply 9
Original post by Davij038
PM- David Davies
Chancellor- John Redwood
First Sec- Priti Patel
Foreign Sec- Jesse Norman
Home Sec- Robert Halfon
Work Sec- Adam Afriyae
Environmental- Zac Goldsmith
Defence- Tobias Elwood
Education- Anne Milton
Health- Steve Brine
Transport- Paul Maynard
Justice- Sam Gyimah
Business- Margot James
Brexit Secretary- Jacob Rees Mogg International Trade- Dan Hannan
Equalities- Philip Davies (joking, I'd actually scrap it)

And thought I'd do one for labour too. I probably wouldn't vote for it, but I wouldn't be appalled if it won either.
EDIT

Leader: Lisa Nandy
Chancellor: Keir Starmer
Foreign: Hilary Benn
International Trade: Chris Leslie
Brexit Secretary: Neil Coyle
First Sec: Alison McGovern
Health: Rachel Reeves
Defence: John Mann
Business: Ben Bradshaw
Education: Liz Kendall
Home: Tom Watson
Environment: Stella Creasy
Transport: David Lammy
Justice: Liam Byrne


How does your cabinet for Labour not have Ed Miliband or Chuka Umunna or Stephen Kinnock or
Harriet Harman... please tell me you at least considered Yvette cooper?
Original post by Zxyn
How does your cabinet for Labour not have Ed Miliband or Chuka Umunna or Stephen Kinnock or
Harriet Harman... please tell me you at least considered Yvette cooper?


I don't rate many in the current Labour party but i do think that Miliband, Kinnock and Starmer are by far your best potential ministers.
Reply 11
Original post by Rakas21
I don't rate many in the current Labour party but i do think that Miliband, Kinnock and Starmer are by far your best potential ministers.


Yeah me too, although same goes for the conservatives. Not seeing much hope in any of them... less seats means less choice but those 3 would definitely be my top pick, Chuka Umunna would need government experience first but I think he’d make a fine Home sec, and Kinnock would make a brilliant foreign secretary. It’s quite sad to see such lack of talent on both sides of the house
Reply 12
Original post by Zxyn
How does your cabinet for Labour not have Ed Miliband or Chuka Umunna or Stephen Kinnock or
Harriet Harman... please tell me you at least considered Yvette cooper?


Ed Miliband is useless, although I do rate Kinnock and Umunna.

Yvette Cooper is awful and is like a horrid love child of Gordon brown and Harriet Harmon with policies to match.,
Reply 13
Original post by Rakas21
PM - Lord Hague
Chancellor - Jacob Reece Mogg MP
First Sec - Ruth Davidson SMP
Foreign Sec - Steven Crabb MP
Home Sec - Theresa May MP
Work Sec - Robert Halfon MP
Communities and Local Government - Daniel Hannan MEP
Constitutional Reform - Zac Goldsmith MP
Environmental - Nicky Morgan MP
Defence - Rory Stewart MP (actually want foreign sec but needed a top spot for Crabb, my punt for PM from the Commons)
Education - Michael Gove MP
Health - Jeremy Hunt MP
Transport - Esther Mcvey MP
Justice - Amber Rudd MP
Business - Lord Willets
Brexit Secretary- David Davis MP
International Trade - Liam Fox MP
Culture, Media and Sport - Philip Davies MP
Chairman - Boris Johnson MP

Ian Duncan Smith would be ejected from the party and George Osbourne put as candidate for his seat.


Mogg as Chancelllor... but with Davidson as FStT???

Don't know why you rate Crabb so much other than he's working class (which is probably nullified by him trying to cheat on his wife with an intern...)
Reply 14
Original post by Davij038
Ed Miliband is useless, although I do rate Kinnock and Umunna.

Yvette Cooper is awful and is like a horrid love child of Gordon brown and Harriet Harmon with policies to match.,


As leader yes, but he played amazing roles in the treasury and in the background during the New Labour days, both in government and in opposition.

I’m not really fans of them so I won’t bother but I think they’re good workers and would do a good job.
Reply 15
Original post by Zxyn
he played amazing roles in the treasury and in the background during the New Labour days, both in government and in opposition.
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Really? Do tell...
Shadow Cabinet

Jeremy Corbyn - Leader of the Opposition

Tom Watson- Shadow Deputy Prime Minister
John McDonnell - Shadow Chancellor
Emily Thornberry - Shadow Foreign Secretary
Barry Gardiner - Shadow Home Secretary
Sir Keir Starmer- Shadow Brexit Secretary

Clive Lewis- Shadow International Trade Secretary
Ian lavery - Shadow Defence Secretary
Richard Burgon - Shadow Justice Secretary
Rebecca Long-Bailey - Shadow Business Secretary
Jon Ashworth - Shadow Health Secretary
Angela Rayner - Shadow Education Secretary
Chris Williamson- Shadow Work & Pensions Secretary

Andrew Gwynne - Shadow Communities Secretary
Andy McDonald - Shadow Transport Secretary
Debbie Abrahams- Shadow International Development Secretary
Tom Watson - Shadow Culture Secretary

Lesley Laird - Shadow Scotland Secretary
Nia Griffin - Shadow Wales Secretary
Owen Smith - Shadow Northern Ireland Secretary

Diane Abbott - Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury
Nick Brown - Whip

In ideal world I wouldn't have Tom Watson anywhere near the Shadow Cabinet, but he's democratic elected as deputy leader.
(edited 6 years ago)
Original post by TheCasual MK2
Shadow Cabinet

Jeremy Corbyn - Leader of the Opposition

Tom Watson- Shadow Deputy Prime Minister
John McDonnell - Shadow Chancellor
Emily Thornberry - Shadow Foreign Secretary
Barry Gardiner - Shadow Home Secretary
Sir Keir Starmer- Shadow Brexit Secretary

Clive Lewis- Shadow International Trade Secretary
Ian lavery - Shadow Defence Secretary
Richard Burgon - Shadow Justice Secretary
Rebecca Long-Bailey - Shadow Business Secretary
Jon Ashworth - Shadow Health Secretary
Angela Rayner - Shadow Education Secretary
Chris Williamson- Shadow Work & Pensions Secretary

Andrew Gwynne - Shadow Communities Secretary
Andy McDonald - Shadow Transport Secretary
Debbie Abrahams- Shadow International Development Secretary
Tom Watson - Shadow Culture Secretary

Lesley Laird - Shadow Scotland Secretary
Nia Griffin - Shadow Wales Secretary
Owen Smith - Shadow Northern Ireland Secretary

Diane Abbott - Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury
Nick Brown - Whip

In ideal world I wouldn't have Tom Watson anywhere near the Shadow Cabinet, but he's democratic elected as deputy leader.


While i understand you supporting Corbyn's politics as a leftie, i'm curious why he'd be your dream leader. Even putting aside his views, he's simply not that competent.
Reply 18
Original post by Rakas21
While i understand you supporting Corbyn's politics as a leftie, i'm curious why he'd be your dream leader. Even putting aside his views, he's simply not that competent.


Tbf he's confounded a lot of his critics: he's shown a good deal of grit. If I didn't find many of his views highly troubling I'd admire him.

The more confusing choice is Dianne abbot anywhere near the treasury or anything involving maths
(edited 6 years ago)
Original post by Davij038
Tbf he's confounded a lot of his critics: he's shown a good deal of grit. If I didn't find many of his views highly troubling I'd admire him.


But none of what he has done has demonstrated that he's capable of running a country. Campaigning and agreeing to a union wishlist may get you elected but there's absolutely no evidence that he'd be any good as PM. He's a figurehead, nothing more.

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