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What does "must be able to work all shifts" mean?

A job I'm applying for states that "the successful candidate must be able to work all shifts", but also goes on to say "Please include your availability on your CV".

Am I understanding what being able to work all shifts means, or is the employer's asking to include availability here a tactic to weed out applications, where any indication that you won't be available all the time is a disqualification from the hiring process?
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Original post by The_Architect
A job I'm applying for states that "the successful candidate must be able to work all shifts", but also goes on to say "Please include your availability on your CV".

Am I understanding what being able to work all shifts means, or is the employer's asking to include availability here a tactic to weed out applications, where any indication that you won't be available all the time is a disqualification from the hiring process?


It means it will say in your contract you have to work whenever they want, regardless of your availability and other commitments. They could call you Friday at 10pm and tell you to come in a 6am the next day. Don't apply.
(edited 6 years ago)
Original post by The_Architect
A job I'm applying for states that "the successful candidate must be able to work all shifts", but also goes on to say "Please include your availability on your CV".

Am I understanding what being able to work all shifts means, or is the employer's asking to include availability here a tactic to weed out applications, where any indication that you won't be available all the time is a disqualification from the hiring process?


Yes, they only want to hire a person who is completely flexible about which shifts they can work. They will almost certainly deselect anyone who doesn't say they are available for all shifts. It's a fair warning of what their needs are.
Original post by Glassapple
It means it will say in your contract you have to work whenever they want, regardless of your availability and other commitments. They could call you Friday at 10pm and tell you to come in a 6am the next day. Don't apply.


Original post by threeportdrift
Yes, they only want to hire a person who is completely flexible about which shifts they can work. They will almost certainly deselect anyone who doesn't say they are available for all shifts. It's a fair warning of what their needs are.


What I suspected. Thanks to you both.
Original post by The_Architect
What I suspected. Thanks to you both.


yea glassapple is right, was gonna say that

you gona take it? :biggrin:
Original post by The_Architect
A job I'm applying for states that "the successful candidate must be able to work all shifts", but also goes on to say "Please include your availability on your CV".

Am I understanding what being able to work all shifts means, or is the employer's asking to include availability here a tactic to weed out applications, where any indication that you won't be available all the time is a disqualification from the hiring process?


Well commonly and ideally, all companies expect their employees to be flexible in order to meet the demands of the business - in other words what if they get extremely busy and they are extremely short staffed? They may ask you to work extra shifts if that is the situation.
But it also depends on what the contract says as well. If it says exactly that (flexibility and overtime may be required) then I don't think there is a lot you can do because its there on the print.

But there is no harm in applying because either way you may get the job or not. You will never know the result unless you try. :smile:
Original post by Bang Outta Order
yea glassapple is right, was gonna say that

you gona take it? :biggrin:


I haven't applied man, and I don't think I will tbh as I don't think I'd be able to hand being on beck and call like that, but so many employers in retail ask for it, so it's really limiting my options.
Original post by AngelsandFairies
Well commonly and ideally, all companies expect their employees to be flexible in order to meet the demands of the business - in other words what if they get extremely busy and they are extremely short staffed? They may ask you to work extra shifts if that is the situation.
But it also depends on what the contract says as well. If it says exactly that (flexibility and overtime may be required) then I don't think there is a lot you can do because its there on the print.

But there is no harm in applying because either way you may get the job or not. You will never know the result unless you try. :smile:


Well, the harm would be if I do get the job and am forced to take it and work on a moment's notice. I don't really see the point in applying in that case, but are you saying that may not be what happens?
Original post by The_Architect
I haven't applied man, and I don't think I will tbh as I don't think I'd be able to hand being on beck and call like that, but so many employers in retail ask for it, so it's really limiting my options.


I say go for it and collect your cheques till you can't do it anymore. A lot of the times the requirements they put down are formalities that aren't practiced in reality anyway.
Original post by The_Architect
Well, the harm would be if I do get the job and am forced to take it and work on a moment's notice. I don't really see the point in applying in that case, but are you saying that may not be what happens?


Well to get the job you have to go through the interview first which means you have to tell the truth about your circumstances anyway. I'm sure they will ask an availability question anyway.
Original post by Glassapple
It means it will say in your contract you have to work whenever they want, regardless of your availability and other commitments. They could call you Friday at 10pm and tell you to come in a 6am the next day. Don't apply.


it implies no such thing

all it implies is that they they want people who , at least initially, are not overly restricted in what shifts they can work , especially if the pay structure is one without shift allowances ...
Original post by zippyRN
it implies no such thing

all it implies is that they they want people who , at least initially, are not overly restricted in what shifts they can work , especially if the pay structure is one without shift allowances ...


What do you mean by this part?
Original post by zippyRN
if the pay structure is one without shift allowances ...


Original post by The_Architect
What do you mean by this part?


Some employers pay extra if you work anti-social hours. For example, I had a job where you got 30p an hour extra if you worked after 6.30pm; £1.20 an hour on Saturdays after 6.30pm; and there was a night-shift allowance for hours worked overnight (though I forget how much that was).

But other employers pay exactly the same hourly rate no matter what time of day (or night) you work.
Original post by martin7
Some employers pay extra if you work anti-social hours. For example, I had a job where you got 30p an hour extra if you worked after 6.30pm; £1.20 an hour on Saturdays after 6.30pm; and there was a night-shift allowance for hours worked overnight (though I forget how much that was).

But other employers pay exactly the same hourly rate no matter what time of day (or night) you work.


exactly

where there is a shift allowance there is an incentive for the worker to work unsocial hours shifts especially when it kicks in early in the evening ( 7 or 8 pm ) and/or is paid for all weekend shifts etc...
Original post by zippyRN
exactly

where there is a shift allowance there is an incentive for the worker to work unsocial hours shifts especially when it kicks in early in the evening ( 7 or 8 pm ) and/or is paid for all weekend shifts etc...


Sorry for the late reply to this. If I'm reading you right, you're saying that they initially want people who must be willing to work unsocial hours without being paid extra for them?

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