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Stuck on yet another maths question - please help

I have gotten as far as:

2(pi*r^2) + 2(pi*r*h) = (pi*r^2)h

My problem is that I am struggling to rearrange the equation.

Can somebody please help - it will be very much appreciated!

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Reply 1
Original post by knoxode
I have gotten as far as:

2(pi*r^2) + 2(pi*r*h) = (pi*r^2)h

My problem is that I am struggling to rearrange the equation.

Can somebody please help - it will be very much appreciated!


2*pi*r^2 + 2*pi*r*h = pi*r^2*h
pi (2*r^2) + pi (2*r*h) = pi(r^2*h)
Cancel off pi and take the two hs to on side. Then u'll find the solution:smile:
(edited 6 years ago)
Original post by stp2002
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Best not to provide full solutions, try to give nudges in the right direction instead. (see the posting guidelines)
Original post by knoxode
I have gotten as far as:

2(pi*r^2) + 2(pi*r*h) = (pi*r^2)h

My problem is that I am struggling to rearrange the equation.

Can somebody please help - it will be very much appreciated!


First thing to do is look for stuff that's in all three of your terms, as you can then divide through by it and make the equation simpler. Can you see two values that appear in every term?
Reply 4
Original post by sindyscape62
First thing to do is look for stuff that's in all three of your terms, as you can then divide through by it and make the equation simpler. Can you see two values that appear in every term?


Pi is in all three terms!
Reply 5
Original post by knoxode
Pi is in all three terms!


Anything else? :-)
Reply 6
Original post by simon0
Anything else? :-)


Radius?
Reply 7
Original post by knoxode
Radius?


Great!

Can you carry out what sindyscape62said and divide through by r and h?

(Note as r and h are not zero, we can divide through).
Reply 8
Original post by simon0
Great!

Can you carry out what sindyscape62said and divide through by r and h?

(Note as r and h are not zero, we can divide through).


pi (2*r^2) pi (2*r*h) = pi(r^2*h)

2r^2 2rh = r^2h

r(2r 2h) = r^2h

2r 2h = (r^2h)/r

2r = ( r^2h)/r - 2h

2r^2 = r^2h - 2h

(2r^2) /r^2 = h - 2h
(edited 6 years ago)
Reply 9
Original post by knoxode
pi (2*r^2) pi (2*r*h) = pi(r^2*h)

2r^2 2rh = r^2h

r(2r 2h) = r^2h

2r 2h = (r^2h)/r

2r = ( r^2h)/r - 2h

2r^2 = r^2h - 2h

(2r^2) /r^2 = h - 2h


Okay, a few things:

- You are missing the addition signs.

- On fourth line RHS, you can divide by r so to gain a term with "r" instead of "r^2".

- On second from last line, it appears you attempted to multiply both sides by "r" but you did not multiply the last term by r.

Start again and make "h" the subject.

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So far we have:

2πrh+2πr2=πr2h, 2 \pi r h + 2 \pi r^{2} = \pi r^{2} h,

2h+2r=rh, 2h + 2r = rh, \quad by dividing by π \pi and r.

Can you re-arrange to have h as subject?
(edited 6 years ago)
Reply 10
Original post by simon0
You are missing the addition signs.


It's something with my phone - I can't put them in
Reply 11
Original post by knoxode
It's something with my phone - I can't put them in


No problem, can you take forward where I left?
Reply 12
Original post by simon0
Okay, a few things:

- You are missing the addition signs.

- On fourth line RHS, you can divide by r so to gain a term with "r" instead of "r^2".

- On second from last line, it appears you attempted to multiply both sides by "r" but you did not multiply the last term by r.

Start again and make "h" the subject.

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So far we have:

2πrh+2πr2=πr2h, 2 \pi r h + 2 \pi r^{2} = \pi r^{2} h,

2h+2r=rh, 2h + 2r = rh, \quad by dividing by π \pi and r.

Can you re-arrange to have h as subject?


2h + 2r = rh

2h/r +2r/r = h


I am very confused.
Original post by knoxode
2h + 2r = rh

2h/r +2r/r = h


I am very confused.


What you've got is correct. The question want h to be on its own, so next you need to get all the terms with h in them on the same side.
Reply 14
Original post by sindyscape62
What you've got is correct. The question want h to be on its own, so next you need to get all the terms with h in them on the same side.


That is the point at which I'm stuck :/
Original post by knoxode
That is the point at which I'm stuck :/


So what you've currently got is:

2r+2h=rh 2r+2h=rh

Can you subtract one of the terms with h in it from both sides, which would make them both on the same side?

As another example if you were given the equation:
2x+5=8x 2x+5=8x
would you know how to get x on its own in that?
Reply 16
Original post by sindyscape62
So what you've currently got is:

2r+2h=rh 2r+2h=rh

Can you subtract one of the terms with h in it from both sides, which would make them both on the same side?

As another example if you were given the equation:
2x+5=8x 2x+5=8x
would you know how to get x on its own in that?


2r + 2h = rh

2h = rh - 2h

2h = h(r-2)

2h/h = r-2

Sorry, making anything the subject is one of my weak points
(edited 6 years ago)
Original post by knoxode
2h + 2r = rh

2h/r +2r/r = h


I am very confused.


at 2h + 2r = rh
get h on one side
2r = rh - 2h
now try separating out h
Original post by knoxode
2r + 2h = rh

2h = rh - 2h

2h = h(r-2)

2h/h = r-2

Sorry, making anything the subject is one of my weak points


If so, then you should probably practice on a bunch of simpler questions before doing this one, because it's a really important skill.

Your problem above is going from the first line to the second. Remember you're subtracting 2h from both sides. You've done this on the right side, but no on the left.
Reply 19
Original post by sindyscape62
If so, then you should probably practice on a bunch of simpler questions before doing this one, because it's a really important skill.

Your problem above is going from the first line to the second. Remember you're subtracting 2h from both sides. You've done this on the right side, but no on the left.


2r + 2*h = r*h

-2h

2r = r - h

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