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why are lots of doctors moving to Australia as oppose to the USA?

username3446470

The pay appears to be more or less the same if not more in the USA as well as being closer to home?

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Not sure how it works in Australia but it's hard to be a doctor in the states without a green card / citizenship.

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Chicken.M.

Because USA is like a 3rd world country in comparison to other western developped nations.

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nmudz_009

Original post by ChickenMadness

Because USA is like a 3rd world country in comparison to other western developped nations.

Why do you say that?

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nmudz_009

Original post by jonjoshelvey21

The pay appears to be more or less the same if not more in the USA as well as being closer to home?

Less competition in Australia, the immigration and medical system is easier to get into, the medical system and general culture of the country is more like the UK than the US, alot of British people have relatives in Australia, Australia is safer to live in the US, the work load in the US is insane, Aus has a better work life balance

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Democracy

The US medical system is heavily biased towards US graduates and IMGs who are US citizens. Certainly specialties are practically off limits to IMGs.

Additionally the exams are difficult and expensive and after doing them you still might not get a job where you want or in a specialty you want.

On the other hand, Australia has great weather, good pay and work-life balance, and looks favourably upon UK doctors. It's a Commonwealth country so it probably also feels culturally more similar to the UK.

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Nerry

less chance of getting shot dead?

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hannah00

Probably because the quality of life in America in terms of work life balance and politically is not as good.

Especially if you have children and you want good schools and affordable education for them

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sexilexi

In the US you are required by law to have an undergraduate degree in any subject before you get a medical diploma and can work. The trade unions made getting undergraduate diplomas a requirement, so any specialized doctor in the us needs easily 10+ years of education, even tho the same doctor could work with 5 years of education in the uk or Australia

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Democracy

Original post by tinycharlie

Is there a source for this? :holmes:

Reply 12

sexilexi

Original post by Democracy

Is there a source for this? :holmes:

Yes

Reply 13

That Bearded Man

Because the US healthcare system is the antithesis of the UK service, I find the idea of working there deeply unethical.

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Democracy

Original post by tinycharlie

Yes

Okay, where is it? :rolleyes:

Reply 15

HateOCR

Original post by jonjoshelvey21

The pay appears to be more or less the same if not more in the USA as well as being closer to home?

Pay is higher in Australia.

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justme13

1. As a foreign educated doctor it is very difficult to gain residency in the US even for less competitive residencies like Family Medicine. Even if you were to get a residency it would be in a isolated or small town

2. Immigrating to the States is much more difficult in general and getting permanent residence is very difficult compared to Australia. It can take decades to get a a green card

3. Pay is actually not higher in Australia, the cost of living in Australia is a lot higher than the majority of the USA except cities in Los Angeles, San Fran or New York. So even if you are paid more in Aus are likely to pay much more in property costs and food.

4. Doctors in the States have an unlimited earning potential because they do their own Billings. They can take as many and as few patients as they want because many of them are self employed and own their own practices. So if they want they can very well work 4 hours a day, which my family doctor did in North America

5. In terms of education: public schools in America are a lot nicer and have better facilities than public education in England. I have seen many schools here and they have subpar classrooms, athletic facilities etc. If you live in a upscale suburb (which you probably do as a doctor) your children will receive a high quality education without you having to put them in private school.

There are many very wealthy people where I used to live who owned 6000+ sq ft homes in an exclusive area that put their children in public school even though they could afford private education.

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justme13

Original post by That Bearded Man

Because the US healthcare system is the antithesis of the UK service, I find the idea of working there deeply unethical.

You most likely know nothing about the US healthcare system except what CNN has told you, or BBC perhaps.

Medicaid is available to anyone with a low income and most people have health benefits with their work, health insurance is a lot more affordable than the taxes people pay in this country.

There is absolutely no reason why something like inheritance tax should exist