If you don't go to Oxbridge or a Russel group you've wasted over £30'000

That is why I used the word "probably", you need to improve on your reading skills.

I have medic friends that have a handful of medical schools that they want to study medicine at because of the "opportunities" there.

Thats true.. I recon they should or just become their own entities! However there was the 1994 group I think before the Russell group which had some 'low rate' universities in which I think fell apart? I think the Russell group is quite strong and probably won't fall apart!

1994 Group was set-up in response to the RG. i.e. it came the RG was established, and some 1994s later joined the RG including LSE, Durham and Warwick.

Thats true.. I recon they should or just become their own entities! However there was the 1994 group I think before the Russell group which had some 'low rate' universities in which I think fell apart? I think the Russell group is quite strong and probably won't fall apart!

Probably, are you serious? Why comment on something if you do not know whether you are right or wrong? Yet, you have the gall to insult my reading when you cannot use correct SPG. Sick of TSR being filled with people who spread misinformation.

If you don't know something don't put it down.

I think it probably will soon. I have heard that some top universities have been complaining about the restraint issued against being allowed to increase fees based on standard.

With Brexit, universities will be compelled to increase fees to stay afloat. We have universities like Oxbridge and Imperial charging a lot less for similar educational standard to Harvard, Princeton, MIT and Stanford.

When these universities are able to get their way and can charge the true value for their services, they would probably not want to stay in the group with low performers. Also the low performing universities will then have to justify charging high fees for mediocre education.

Imagine Oxford or Imperial academics competing against Harvard or Princeton academics but then be in the same group of "excellence" with QMUL or Liverpool.

I see the RG breaking up, if not soon then probaly when Brexit starts biting hard.

Ohh okay. I read something a bit different somewhere! What happened to the group and why did it disband?

Do you not get bored with this Big 8 ****? The same nonsense over and over, and never taking on board any of the criticisms of your categorisations. Maybe change your name to Wired_8888, just so people know what they're getting into.

I chose 8 to be able to form the "Ivy League" of the UK. Those 8 unis mentioned are the best 8 UK universities in the world ranking.



I think these universities can stand on their own and compete against the top universities in other countries.

Warwick has been destroyed on many threads for being a bit overrated. If you remove Maths and Economics, many folks seem to agree that Warwick is just a bog-standard university.

Nobody really knows about St Andrews or what they do well. If you ask, people will just say, "oh, was that where Prince William and Kate Middleton went to uni?"

I am not stating they are not good universities. I think there needs to be a real shake up in the university system, so students know the value of their degree.

Imagine someone paying about £9,000 for a degree at Cambridge or Manchester, whilst another person is paying the same £9,000 at a really low-performing university with the Russell Group label. It is daylight robbery.

Do you not get bored with this Big 8 ****? The same nonsense over and over, and never taking on board any of the criticisms of your categorisations. Maybe change your name to Wired_8888, just so people know what they're getting into.

I chose 8 to be able to form the "Ivy League" of the UK. Those 8 unis mentioned are the best 8 UK universities in the world ranking.

Warwick has been destroyed on many threads for being a bit overrated. If you remove Maths and Economics, many folks seem to agree that Warwick is just a bog-standard university.

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I think it probably will soon. I have heard that some top universities have been complaining about the restraint issued against being allowed to increase fees based on standard.

With Brexit, universities will be compelled to increase fees to stay afloat. We have universities like Oxbridge and Imperial charging a lot less for similar educational standard to Harvard, Princeton, MIT and Stanford.

When these universities are able to get their way and can charge the true value for their services, they would probably not want to stay in the group with low performers. Also the low performing universities will then have to justify charging high fees for mediocre education.

Imagine Oxford or Imperial academics competing against Harvard or Princeton academics but then be in the same group of "excellence" with QMUL or Liverpool.

I see the RG breaking up, if not soon then probaly when Brexit starts biting hard.

Why are you putting the THE rankings at god status? Plenty of other ranks paint a very different picture.

Also it's laughable that you even put KCL, Manchester and compare it to ivy league. Hell, even UCL doesnt compare to Ivy league.

You put Cambridge and manchester on the same level which is completely stupid. Warwick being destroyed on TSR threads isnt an argument at all. The fact that St Andrew's isnt well known doesnt change the fact that it's better than Manchester, KCL and Edinburgh. Also you've ignored durham which again is up there if not better.

Point is simple. If you're going to give something the top status and label it something, you can't put the likes of manchester. Just had a look at your posts and I wasnt surprised to see you go manchester.

It should be Oxbridge LSE, Imperial and UCL arguably. And there's no big 8, there's already something called the golden triangle.

It's funny how desperate you want to put yourself at the top but pls take a step down and stay in your league. thanks.

I understand what you're saying and so see truth to it. I recon all universities should be their own entities. The Russell group was once prestigious but not anymore!

The best universities in the UK already have their own version of the Ivy League, it's called the G5 and includes Oxbridge, LSE, Imperial and UCL.

And if you're using what other people on TSR are saying as a metric of measuring how 'well perceived' a university is, TSR still rates Warwick very highly.

Does he do this a lot? If you look at his posts you can see he goes Manchester And can you guess what's 8th in his "big 8" nonsense? Manchester.

It's just a pathetic attempt at him trying to squeeze himself into an elite group he made up himself.

I've heard a lot of people, especially teachers, slyly voice this opinion.

Usually in year 12 everyone swears that they're definitely going to a Russel Group or Oxbridge. Then the reality of mock exams hits home and most people end up going to London Met.

Is it true that you're doomed if you don't go to a prestigious institution and will people look down on you eek

17 recent grads. 50% are RG (including Cambridge).


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