If you don't go to Oxbridge or a Russel group you've wasted over £30'000

This is idiotic....

What if you go to a university that has very close links with industry, offering a placement year?
What if you do a placement year?
I guess its a waste of time and money then too?

IMO non-stem subjects (not all) such as dance, art, etc. are a waste of money.

You started so well...

What was wrong?

Those who work in the arts or in archaeology would disagree with you and would say their need for grads is as relevant as a someone who needed a STEM grad.

Statistically speaking there isn't enough of a demand for art/archaeology graduates compared to STEM graduates. Obviously you're going to defend the degree you pick...

The university you go to definitely does not affect your employment chances for medicine. Pretty much everyone who seeks employment is hired by the NHS and all courses are monitored by the GMC which set most of the exams so there isn't as much room for variance as in other courses. You are just talking out of your arse here mate.

I am getting tired of having to defend myself here. I would say it again, I DO NOT study at the University of Manchester.

The Big 8 idea, if you read my previous posts accurately, was to rival the US Ivy League.

I don't care which universities come out to be the top 8 universities in the UK. However, the most accurate picture that can be used are the world rankings such as QS and THE.

Both rankings consistently put the 8 universities mentioned as the best 8 universities in the UK. For diversity purposes, here is the 2018 list.

https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2018



If you go to the link and filter for Europe, you will still see the 8 universities mentioned as being the top 8 in the UK. Local ranking tables paint a different picture and have not been consistent year-on-year.

I think it is stupid to argue that UCL does not compare to the Ivy League, there are 8 universities including Cornell and Brown, UCL is clearly better and ranked higher than both on international rankings.

Like I have written, if it is Big 5, 6 or 7, it does not matter. It was just a group that can truly rival the Ivy League in the US. Obviously, universities that may be subjectively better may not be on the list such as Stanford, MIT, Berkeley and Caltech in the US.

Hi everyone,

I don’t mean to offend anyone, but I have a question.

Are there still some halls considered to be “posh” i.e. mostly dominated by privately education guys and girls studying in Manchester. I have read that some Halls such as St. Anselm, St. Gabriel and Hulme Hall were considered to be posh; but these are old articles (circa 10 years ago).

Please don’t get me wrong, I am not against private school people in anyway. I just want to know.

Cheers.

Yeah, you were saying?

Rankings are complete rubbish. Manchester does not even compare with Ivy league, only oxbridge/imperial really does, then LSE then UCL. That's it.

Ok

You've been baited as a liar. You go manchester and you're desperate to compare yourself to ivy league.

Stay in your ****ing lane idiot.

You've been baited as a liar. You go manchester and you're desperate to compare yourself to ivy league.

We've drawn a line under this distraction in this thread. Please don't continue it.

Don't you think there's a problem with a user continuously repeating this idea of a non existent top 8 unis that can compare to ivy league? It's very misleading and poor advice, especially at a time when people are applying to unis

Take it to a new thread on the subject if you want to continue this. Thanks.

Yeah, you were saying?

Rankings are complete rubbish. Manchester does not even compare with Ivy league, only oxbridge/imperial really does, then LSE then UCL. That's it.

I went to Uni of Sussex and also lucky enough to have gone to an ivy league.

And from my experience I can safely say American universities trump British ones by far in terms of money available to departments,facilities etc. It's just insane over there. The quality of education I would maybe say is comparable to oxbridge/imperial like you say but I wouldn't say the jump academically was "huge"

Yeah exactly. Ivy league is just a group for some sort of sport division or something and doesnt include all the best (Stanford for example)

Maybe the jump isnt huge but at the end of the day there's only so much you can learn when you're at undergraduate level

The Ivy league are still extremely high quality learning institutions though and hard as hell to get into. Remember being sat next to these two guys and they were telling me how they got rejected by Havard and MIT was mad.