Tempted to hire an escort

Original post by Napp

Oh real mature, bring out the old sexism spiel :rolleyes:

No, you're the one who made a ridiculously fallacious comparison between paying for sex - which has been a perfectly acceptable staple of human behavior for millennia, to eating people and wanton murder - neither of which have been acceptable in any form. You also seem to be confusing escorting and prostitution, there is a rather glaring difference.
Not especially.
You literally just said some aren't covered under your rather cute generalization... lol.

I think this simply boils down to your own prejudice on the matter which is amusing as im inclined to believe you've never met nor spoken to an escort and thus, in ones opinion, are incapable of actually speaking for them but in rather hoary generalizations which you have yet to back up.

I beg your pardon?I have addressed all of your points, you're the one lacking evidence. And I have yet to insult you, calling you a bigot hardly meets the definition of an insult, it is an apt description of you and your prejudiced views,

What does maturity have to do with it. Men who think they are entitled to a woman's body by paying for it, are misogynists.

No, you did, your logic was "we live in a free world, people can do what they want". I simply showed you the implication of that statement.

You seem to be under some illusion that escorting is some sort of glorious profession and women just dream of having a career as an escort. You completely fell for the marketing gag of calling escorts escorts as if they aren't whores.

I have spoken to escorts, have you spoken to some that you haven't paid? So many assumptions you are making here. I'm not prejudiced either, if anything I'm simply not as ignorant as you are. I suggest you research this topic and come back to me when you are comfortable with the levels of ptsd otherwise found in soldiers and the high proportion of women who were abused as children in the industry.

You're a joke aren't you, in the same post you accuse me of not having evidence and yet state you're opinions without evidence as fact.

Yes you have, you repeatedly failed to engage logically with my arguments instead just regurgitate "you must be biased and prejudiced hence you're a bigot". And that's not the only thing you said, without any sort of rationale you dismissed my point from above about we can do what we want as idiotic.

You're entire argument is "it's been done in the past and it's a free world". I've already shown you how stupid the latter is and I think even you can admit how stupid the former is, if not in happy to tell you.

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Anonymous #4

Girls who look down on guys getting escorts.. they are cheaper than u and probably nicer than you as they wont hate on other women.

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Original post by Anonymous

Girls who look down on guys getting escorts.. they are cheaper than u and probably nicer than you as they wont hate on other women.

I don’t hate on any women unless they give me reason to. I hate on men who pay women for sex.

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Analyst89

Original post by lucas9696

Hi I am 21 and at uni and I have only ever had sex once and that was quite a while ago. It is frustrating me that I can't find anyone. I have tried joining societies to meet people which didn't really work. I tried going out to clubs more and I have only managed to get with one person in a club and even that didn't go further than a kiss. I have joined tinder and met people off there and nothing came of that. People have told me that I am attractive guy so I don;t really know why I can't meet anyone. So I am tempted to hire an escort for an hour. I don;t know if I should or not. Does anyone have any advice?

You could join more online dating sites, try speed dating, continue making friendships at uni, join clubs outside of uni based on your interest and you can also approach females.

I believe if you hire an escort it will just be an empty experience and one you may resent. Escorts are also not cheap.

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Original post by yudothis

What does maturity have to do with it. Men who think they are entitled to a woman's body by paying for it, are misogynists.

No, you did, your logic was "we live in a free world, people can do what they want". I simply showed you the implication of that statement.

You seem to be under some illusion that escorting is some sort of glorious profession and women just dream of having a career as an escort. You completely fell for the marketing gag of calling escorts escorts as if they aren't whores.

I have spoken to escorts, have you spoken to some that you haven't paid? So many assumptions you are making here. I'm not prejudiced either, if anything I'm simply not as ignorant as you are. I suggest you research this topic and come back to me when you are comfortable with the levels of ptsd otherwise found in soldiers and the high proportion of women who were abused as children in the industry.

You're a joke aren't you, in the same post you accuse me of not having evidence and yet state you're opinions without evidence as fact.

Yes you have, you repeatedly failed to engage logically with my arguments instead just regurgitate "you must be biased and prejudiced hence you're a bigot". And that's not the only thing you said, without any sort of rationale you dismissed my point from above about we can do what we want as idiotic.

You're entire argument is "it's been done in the past and it's a free world". I've already shown you how stupid the latter is and I think even you can admit how stupid the former is, if not in happy to tell you.

I don’t think Napp actually understand what point they are trying to make. They are just so desperate to argue about something that they will claim taking a dim view on prostitution is “perverse” without even being able to explain why.

And can we please stop pretending there is a difference between a prostitute and an escort, look up the definition of prostitution in the dictionary and tell me how it doesn’t apply.

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yudothis

Original post by del1rious

I don’t think Napp actually understand what point they are trying to make. They are just so desperate to argue about something that they will claim taking a dim view on prostitution is “perverse” without even being able to explain why.

And can we please stop pretending there is a difference between a prostitute and an escort, look up the definition of prostitution in the dictionary and tell me how it doesn’t apply.

Agreed and agreed, it's just a marketing gag.

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angelofessence

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Oh my lord, that bit OP said about "pulling a girl from a nightclub". All sounds so familiar and just confirms my view on it all. I walk into nightclubs every now and then after a few beers with the guys and I observe. Here's how it is. The ratio of guys to girls is normally 25 guys to 0.25 girls. Unless a girl is in a group I always see them being preyed upon by some sleezy drunk "lad" type who thinks he's f*****g James Bond with his primark suit, c**p haircut and £3.99 cocktail. And now from this post I see where the problem lies. Women aren't even looked upon as people anymore, just sex objects for the likes of you. Do us all a moral favour and stick to jerking off at your computer rather putting more misery and shame into some poor soul who is getting 'used' to satisty someone elses urges. Seriously, don't do this.

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Original post by angelofessence

Oh my lord, that bit OP said about "pulling a girl from a nightclub". All sounds so familiar and just confirms my view on it all. I walk into nightclubs every now and then after a few beers with the guys and I observe. Here's how it is. The ratio of guys to girls is normally 25 guys to 0.25 girls. Unless a girl is in a group I always see them being preyed upon by some sleezy drunk "lad" type who thinks he's f*****g James Bond with his primark suit, c**p haircut and £3.99 cocktail. And now from this post I see where the problem lies. Women aren't even looked upon as people anymore, just sex objects for the likes of you. Do us all a moral favour and stick to jerking off at your computer rather putting more misery and shame into some poor soul who is getting 'used' to satisty someone elses urges. Seriously, don't do this.

Hear hear

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Four Queue

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Original post by angelofessence

Oh my lord, that bit OP said about "pulling a girl from a nightclub". All sounds so familiar and just confirms my view on it all. I walk into nightclubs every now and then after a few beers with the guys and I observe. Here's how it is. The ratio of guys to girls is normally 25 guys to 0.25 girls. Unless a girl is in a group I always see them being preyed upon by some sleezy drunk "lad" type who thinks he's f*****g James Bond with his primark suit, c**p haircut and £3.99 cocktail. And now from this post I see where the problem lies. Women aren't even looked upon as people anymore, just sex objects for the likes of you. Do us all a moral favour and stick to jerking off at your computer rather putting more misery and shame into some poor soul who is getting 'used' to satisty someone elses urges. Seriously, don't do this.

How do you know they aren't just trying to be social? Presumably you don't talk to any women in the club if this is your stance.

You've made a completely judgemental statement about a person you know nothing about. So because he is interested in having sex with women, he is somehow a bad person who sees them as nothing but objects. He could be the most loving, caring boyfriend in the world for all you know. Also, do you actually think women never view men as sexual objects too? Spoiler alert, they do.

Do you think all women are delicate snowflakes who cannot make their own choices? They are willing participants who are accepting money for a service. I'm amazed how offended you are on their behalf, and use patronising language like 'poor soul', as if they are completely clueless as to what's going on?

Also what about male escorts? Are they getting used for someones sexual urges too?

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Rachel949

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Don't worry about the scorn that young women like to pour on young men whom they don't deem 'good enough' for them. Nice guys tend to get ignored by women until later on when they are looking to settle down. Don't go for an escort, it doesn't do anyone any good, but you can improve yourself. Women respond to confidence and accomplishment.Nice guy stuff is important in relationships but it isn't what builds attraction. There are plenty of websites and blogs out there that can help men. Take heart.

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Original post by Four Queue

How do you know they aren't just trying to be social? Presumably you don't talk to any women in the club if this is your stance.

You've made a completely judgemental statement about a person you know nothing about. So because he is interested in having sex with women, he is somehow a bad person who sees them as nothing but objects. He could be the most loving, caring boyfriend in the world for all you know. Also, do you actually think women never view men as sexual objects too? Spoiler alert, they do.

Do you think all women are delicate snowflakes who cannot make their own choices? They are willing participants who are accepting money for a service. I'm amazed how offended you are on their behalf, and use patronising language like 'poor soul', as if they are completely clueless as to what's going on?

Also what about male escorts? Are they getting used for someones sexual urges too?

Op has said he is jealous of friends who get girls to go home them on nights out. So he is not interested in being anyone’s boyfriend

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yudothis

Original post by Four Queue

Also what about male escorts? Are they getting used for someones sexual urges too?

Of course, what did you think? You miraculously found a hypocrisy and could dismiss the entire argument?

Pathetic.

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lololemons

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It sounds like you have shallow and self-centred intentions and that's not attractive. Obviously you're not looking for a relationship as you didn't mention finding friendship or love and you would not be considering an escort. Sure, we all have a libido, but from a female perspective it's advisable that you preserve your self respect before resorting to coercing sex from someone who clearly has no interest in you. That's far more pathetic than being 21 and not getting any.

(edited 6 years ago)

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Four Queue

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Original post by del1rious

Op has said he is jealous of friends who get girls to go home them on nights out. So he is not interested in being anyone’s boyfriend

So because at this point where he's single and is interested in bringing a girl back - it means he is not interested in potentially finding a girlfriend too? :confused:

You're just making assumptions.

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