Why are people NOT homophobic??

Why aren't people homophobic? Because homosexuality is a natural behaviour. Don't think for a second it is just humans that show these traits, it is well documented in many other species from penguins down to intestinal tapeworms. Most of these animals lack the conscious thinking ability we have but still behave that way - in many ways both disproving the "its a choice" argument and that it is in someway a "perversion"

Well, that is a point going at a tangent.

The related point is that there is virtually no religious issues/agenda on majority of my TV shows/soap operas but their is loads of homosexuality issues/agenda.

Now considering the population of religious people being far larger (by large multiples) than the population of homosexuals/LGBT people, so which of these two would you really say is being "shoved down my throat"?

Fortunately, science doesn't really care about your laughably wrong opinions. Facts are that WPATH standards of care decrease gender dysphoria and improve mental health (thats' five different links by the way). And, since I know you're just itching to demonstrate you've not read beyond headlines and parrot the "40% of trans people attempt suicide" claim, be aware where that number comes from and how limited the methodology is.

So no actual argument then.

You know whats delusional? Talking to a being that nobody has ever seen or heard, or touched. Talking to people that nobody else can see is the very definition of madness.Religious people should take a look at themselves before throwing stones.By most definitions they could be considered mentally ill.

Hi. I'd like to argue that the absence of specific religious representation on television and the presence of same-sex representation actually have a consistent explanation that doesn't lead to the conclusion of the shoving and all.
The lack of religion in the media, as you claim, is perhaps a strategy mindful of the diversity of religions present in the population. Thus the aim is to level the population and make it equal. Without showing religion on TV, there is no preference for one religion over another. I believe this thinking applies to same-sex couples in the media; to show both heterosexuality and homosexuality aims to achieve equality across the population, most of whom are heterosexual, some of whom are heterosexual, most of whom are romantic, all of whom are humans.

I'd also like to answer the question of the thread. Personally, I'm not homophobic because I find it takes an awful lot of my energy to hate any person or object or idea. I prefer to use my energy to be kind. Honestly, it feels good to be kind. Unrelated to the topic at hand, recently I haven't been as kind as I could be, so thank you for helping me realise that.
As for why people in general are not homophobic, there is similarly as sense of not caring either way about someone's sexual orientation. There's far more to gain from evaluating ourselves then evaluating others based on far less information.

You have a right to voice your opinion, whatever that opinion is, even if that opinion is unpopular. An opinion has to be heard to be agreed or disagreed with. There are many people don't support homosexuality and do not talk about it, that's fine, I won't lambast(e?) them for their opinion. I will however be open to conversing with them on the topic if they are also open. Their opinion might change as a result; my opinion might change as a result. The beauty of opinions is that they are flexible and can be changed in light of new information, based on a new way of thinking, perhaps on a whim at random.

Honestly though, I think the main reason is that life actually is pretty short. I don't want to waste so much of it on negativity. DFTBA.

There may be tangents in my argument along the way, I've just now looked back to see how long this comment is, and it has swerved between answering one person and answering another and answering nobody in particular, but I hope you look at my comment as a whole.

Well, my friend, saying transitioning "decreases gender dysphoria" and "improves mental health" is really not proof it is "the most effective treatment".

So now you realise you don't even know what I am about to say, din't ya?

I am sure University of Birmingham can be said to be quite good at research, ain't they?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2004/jul/30/health.mentalhealth

Eh, what are the other treatments? The unjustifiable torture masquerading as conversion therapy, which has a track record of making things worse?

What you've linked is pretty massively outdated. The body of research is clear, current procedures improve mental health in trans people.

Honestly, I don't see why people actually support the LGBT community. I don't see why it's so frowned upon for me to express my opinions on this issue. Just wanted to see what other TSR members thought of it..

And no I don't hide myself under Anon ever when it comes to controversial topics.

Electing another treatment to discredit is not proof that transitioning is "the most effective treatment".

Fortunately, science doesn't really care about your laughably wrong opinions. Facts are that WPATH standards of care decrease gender dysphoria and improve mental health (thats' five different links by the way). And, since I know you're just itching to demonstrate you've not read beyond headlines and parrot the "40% of trans people attempt suicide" claim, be aware where that number comes from and how limited the methodology is.

I️ think one of the biggest problems is that anyone that doesn’t completely agree with the extreme leftism of the LGBT community is automatically labeled homophobic. Which is not right. I’m making an assumption here but i’m guessing you don’t go out of your way to ruin the lives of people who claim they’re LGBT, you have every right not to have to support them. “Homophobe” is a term that is used unjustly by the community and much too often.

Eh, if there's a couple of "treatments", and one is nothing more than torture that straight up doesn't work, then the other is going to be the most effective by default. Still, it's better than "most effective by default", transitioning is an incredibly effective treatment - as I've already shown you.

Try actually reading the links provided and trying to learn something this time.

Honestly, it's totally fine to find it not appealing or disgusting in a sexual way. Like I doubt a homosexal is going to look at straight porn and say "yeah, this is nice."


The issue occurs when you actively attack them for the way they're born, try to make them straight or treat them as inferior or unnatural. And honestly, I would argue the whole thing of "homosexuality is being shoved down my throat" is relatively petty considering there are more gays being thrown out of their family/imprisoned/killed etc for not being straight than vise versa.

Even when the other does not work too?

Even when research has not been conclusive?

40% (if I remember correctly) fail rate is not really regarded as "effective", you know?

This is the problem with people who are poor at debates.

How did you link him or his statements to religion?

They love shoving their agenda up people's throats. Their little marches and anti-biological nature.