Tesco christmas advert features Muslims celebrating it.

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Reply 60

QE2

Original post by Ganjaweed Rebel

What's the matter colonel, can't handle a strong powerful woman?

I shall be saving those Hillary memes for bed time. Mmm...

Reply 61

QE2

Original post by closethedoor

And Santa isn’t even part of the Christian religion so I would hardly agree that Christmas belongs to them

Erm, Santa Claus = St Nicholas, who was renowned for his secret gift-giving.

Reply 62

James255

It's ridiculous that some people are upset about this. But it's good that 99% of responses here agree with the advert and have some common sense.

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Reply 63

Plantagenet Crown

Good, the more integration the better.

Reply 64

username1402543

Original post by karanight

If you truly are muslim, please tell me what the quran says at quran (2:191-193). Don't be shy, let everyone on here see for themselves that there is no way on Gods earth that faithful muslims would associate with kuffirs, but rather, kill them!

I just wanted to mention that you should really check over that again and again. Yes its comparing to the disbelivers, however its something more sinister than that. Please check it again and dont bring random verses of the Holy Quraan in threads which have nothing got to do with them.

Thank you.

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Reply 65

username1402543

Original post by Plantagenet Crown

Good, the more integration the better.

And what exactly would that achieve?

Reply 66

Laissez‒faire

Original post by Ganjaweed Rebel

What's the matter colonel, can't handle a strong powerful woman?

You know who else can't handle strong powerful women?

Reply 67

Laissez‒faire

Original post by QE2

I shall be saving those Hillary memes for bed time. Mmm...

Spoiler

Reply 68

karanight

Original post by MiszShortee786

I just wanted to mention that you should really check over that again and again. Yes its comparing to the Kuffars, however its something more sinister than that. Please check it again and dont bring random verses of the Holy Quraan in threads which have nothing got to do with them.

Thank you.

No idea what you're talking about. I mentioned the qur'an because there's a misconception that muslims will integrate with none muslims. Faithful muslims will not do that.

Reply 69

karanight

Original post by Paracosm

I mean... you can't win can you? People going: "Ffs their in are country why dont they integrate and follow are traditions!11!!!1!!!" and then at the slightest hint of a muslim family celebrating what is chiefly a cultural and not a religious event in the UK, you complain? For goodness sake.

That's not the point, the point is that they're being portrayed on the advert as celebrating a festival that they are forbidden to celebrate so therefore it's insulting to muslims and others

Reply 70

Charles III

Original post by karanight

That's not the point, the point is that they're being portrayed on the advert as celebrating a festival that they are forbidden to celebrate so therefore it's insulting to muslims and others

Absolute nonsense. N o n s e n s e. Christmas in the UK is barely religious and is the most commercialised ‘festival’ in the western world. It’s about getting together with the family to spend time and eat good food. Share gifts with one another and to just relax. How often do you hear of people saying thanks to God before eating their Christmas meal?

Let me tell you, it’s not many. I’m an atheist and I still take part in the festivities, because, due to commercialisation it’s not religious and is more a part of our culture as a people and our identity as a family. We all have traditions and there is absolutely NOTHING wrong in embracing that. Also, it is of note that Christ is believed to be a prophet of God in Islam, so what’s the harm in celebrating his birthday as a Muslim? There isn’t any.

You write as if you’re a Muslim, if you are and you’re offended by this then you really need to find a better use of your time. Goodness me.

Nonsense.

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Reply 71

CTLeafez

People get angry when Muslims don't integrate into British culture and now people are getting angry because they are portrayed as embracing the culture... There's no winning!

I'm not Christian but my family has always celebrated Christmas, less as a religious holiday, but as a tradition. If I'm allowed to celebrate Christmas, in the family coming over for a meal sense, then why can't others?

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Reply 72

karanight

Original post by Paracosm

Go and tell that to the imams that have forbidden muslims from celebrating Christmas. You say 'I’m an atheist and I still take part in the festivities' That means you have no-one to forbid you to do as you wish. As for me being a muslim, no I’m not. I like to celebrate Christmas.

Reply 73

Hirsty97

To create controversy so more people watch it

Reply 74

A'OK

Original post by Paracosm

This isn't really the point though. Everyone knows most "Christians" are not even religious but only on paper say they're Christian but those who are deeply religious Christman is certainly more than just a holiday to relax, it's a religious celebration and whether it's culture or not the festival itself is rooted in Christianity and Muslims do not take part in it, or should not take part in it.

The advert is deliberately trying to portray Muslims as throwing their religion out the window to have a jolly old knees up and celebrate a Christian event when in fact the overwhelming majority of Muslims do not celebrate it so it's painting Muslims, the overwhelming majority of which do not celebrate it, in a bad light.

How do you think Christians would feel if an Tesco advert showed Christians wearing crosses going to eid al adha where they sacrifice animals in the spirit of Abraham who sacrificed his son to god... It certainly would not go down well among the Christian community because they wouldn't want to be associated with such a celebration.

The same goes for Muslims and Christmas, most do not celebrate it, most do not want to be associated with it and quite frankly that advert is probably using fake Muslims for actors.

Reply 75

Underscore__

Original post by karanight

. That's the whole point. They DON'T celebrate Christmas. They DON'T integrate at all. It's Tesco that's trying to make us believe that they do, but those of us that have more than sawdust for brains can see it anyway

How do you know how many Muslims do or don’t celebrate Christmas? I know quite a few people who aren’t Christian (mostly Jews) who celebrate Christmas because they live in England and it’s part of the culture.

Reply 76

karanight

Original post by A'OK

This isn't really the point though. Everyone knows most "Christians" are not even religious but only on paper say they're Christian but those who are deeply religious Christman is certainly more than just a holiday to relax, it's a religious celebration and whether it's culture or not the festival itself is rooted in Christianity and Muslims do not take part in it, or should not take part in it.

The advert is deliberately trying to portray Muslims as throwing their religion out the window to have a jolly old knees up and celebrate a Christian event when in fact the overwhelming majority of Muslims do not celebrate it so it's painting Muslims, the overwhelming majority of which do not celebrate it, in a bad light.
How do you think Christians would feel if an Tesco advert showed Christians wearing crosses going to eid al adha where they sacrifice animals in the spirit of Abraham who sacrificed his son to god... It certainly would not go down well among the Christian community because they wouldn't want to be associated with such a celebration.

The same goes for Muslims and Christmas, most do not celebrate it, most do not want to be associated with it and quite frankly that advert is probably using fake Muslims for actors.

Correct. Now tesco are telling me that I'm a racist, Nothing could be father from the truth. I've shared my home with a muslim family and let a polish couple live in my home. We've lived in France and Spain, immersing ourselves into their cultures. I've got no problem with muslims as long as as they don't push their religion done my throat. Tesco is propagating a problem by portraying muslims as celebrating what is considered a christian festival. I notice that they didn't portray Jews as doing the same
I will NEVER shop in tesco again

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Reply 77

Jibola240

Original post by Paracosm

Majority of the outrage is coming from muslims.

Reply 78

karanight

Original post by Jibola240

Majority of the outrage is coming from muslims.

And if it isn't, it should be

Reply 79

MrSuavetopia

Original post by A'OK

They can partake in whatever they want. As has been said previously, those crying about this are often the ones who seem to deride Muslims for not integrating well into society here so it seems hypocritical to then get upset about this.

Incidentally, to flip your point around, I daresay those Muslims who are deeply religious won't take part. Those who are less so probably will.

The point is, it's dependent on how extreme your religious views are. The vast majority of people however, won't care who partakes in X religious/cultural festival. It's only extreme Christians or Muslims who will get upset. Thankfully that isn't the majority of either, so most people won't care enough to get worked up over something so trivial.

Original post by A'OK

The advert is deliberately trying to portray Muslims as throwing their religion out the window to have a jolly old knees up and celebrate a Christian event when in fact the overwhelming majority of Muslims do not celebrate it so it's painting Muslims, the overwhelming majority of which do not celebrate it, in a bad light.

No I think it's pointing to the commercialised nature of the holiday, such that literally anyone and everyone celebrates it now. Christian, atheist, Sikh, Muslim...it's an excuse to to get together with family and have a good time, irrespective of religious overtones. As I've said, if a Muslim is fine celebrating it, then who is to say they can't?

Original post by A'OK

How do you think Christians would feel if an Tesco advert showed Christians wearing crosses going to eid al adha where they sacrifice animals in the spirit of Abraham who sacrificed his son to god... It certainly would not go down well among the Christian community because they wouldn't want to be associated with such a celebration.

I imagine only extreme Christians would care, and sure, that part of the Christian community would cry. However, by your own words, 'most Christians aren't religious'. Thus, I don't think most would actually care, so we can disregard this scenario.

Original post by A'OK

The same goes for Muslims and Christmas, most do not celebrate it, most do not want to be associated with it and quite frankly that advert is probably using fake Muslims for actors.