Man wins in women's competition

So using this logic, should short men have their own basketball league?

Should we separate out sprinting events by ethnicity?

Should people with low IQ scores sit different A Level papers than people with high IQ scores?

So using this logic, should short men have their own basketball league?

Should we separate out sprinting events by ethnicity?

Should people with low IQ scores sit different A Level papers than people with high IQ scores?

What’s there to justify? Provided her testosterone levels were below 10 nanomoles per liter for at least 12 months prior to the competition, there’s nothing to justify.

Regardless of your opinion, I am stating this as a trans man myself, and the last thing I am being is exclusionary or biased. I speak from experience, and working with and alongside trans people:

It isn't even worth debating this, trans women still have the biological capacity to gain muscle mass and strength at a higher rate than a biological woman--a huge benefit in most sports. Under these circumstances, it is not appropriate for a trans woman to enter any form of sports competition against biological women, and it offers a massive advantage on par with disallowed performance-enhancers. It is the same concerning trans men, but I wouldn't impede upon their wish to compete against biological men because.... well, it is only a disadvantage to themselves. Most trans men are still affected by biological factors; including a reduced ability to build muscle and strength in comparison to biological males; although often work themselves well enough to compete--neither at an advantage or disadvantage since testosterone levels are kept within a natural male range (otherwise we would make ourselves pretty damn sick). Look at Laith Ashley, Aydian Dowling, Shawn Stinson, Ben Melzer, and so on.

The best choice of action in my opinion would be to set up an isolated competition for those who are trans, but even then it is questionable since every trans person responds differently to their medication, and their athletic ability may both be inhibited or improved by their medication more than the next person. However, it would be comparable to many athletic competitions where disabled individuals compete with varying degrees of disabilities--not saying trans people are disabled, just using it as a comparative example. The second problem with a trans exclusive competition comes with the idea that many trans people far into their transition are not obviously trans, and prefer to live in stealth. By setting up trans exclusive competitions, you would essentially be removing the choice to compete from trans athletes who wish to remain private about their past.

I don't agree with allowing transgenders to participate in their new genders sports teams because genetically they are still men!

It isn't even worth debating this, trans women still have the biological capacity to gain muscle mass and strength at a higher rate than a biological woman--a huge benefit in most sports.

Stop being an idiot Chief.

It depends on the sport. Increased mass is great for a sprinter, but would ruin a marathon runner.

I assume by "genetically men", you mean they're XY? Athletics hasn't verified sex by chromosome tests for about two decades, simply because there were too many intersex female athletes for it to be reliable.



No, they don't. Trans women who've had a year of the kind of hormone therapy required by the IOC generally have noticeably lower T levels than cis female athletes. Runners who transition report getting drastically slower times after than before.

Trans women on average, are taller, smaller-breasted, and narrower-hipped than cis-women, and these things do provide advantages in some sports. But plenty of cis women naturally have these body shapes as well anyway, and we don't ban them.

This is a piss take.
Join/create a trans competition instead.

2. Until there is a definitive agreement in the community (either way), one has to protect the much larger group - women.

I would agree with this, but in many cases biological males still do better in running competitions. Look at the fastest runners out there: they are all men. And the same can be seen with marathon winners: the male winners always finish faster than female winners.

"Women" defined how? Athletics governing bodies are already having headaches over this, particularly with regard to the Caster Semenya and Dutee Chand debacles.