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So I’m currently doing catalytic and thermal cracking, but I’m a bit stuck with it. So if catalytic cracking produces branched alkanes ,cyclic alkanes and aromatic hydrocarbons, what would the equation be to form the cyclo alkane of heptane? If its c7h16 = what cyclo alkane would be formed ( if this makes sense, I’m doing my best to explain it)
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Original post by Ifailedagain
So I’m currently doing catalytic and thermal cracking, but I’m a bit stuck with it. So if catalytic cracking produces branched alkanes ,cyclic alkanes and aromatic hydrocarbons, what would the equation be to form the cyclo alkane of heptane? If its c7h16 = what cyclo alkane would be formed ( if this makes sense, I’m doing my best to explain it)


Catalytic cracking has the advantage of requiring a lower temperature (800K) and requires a Zeolite catalyst.
Thermal cracking requires heating larger alkanes at a high temperature (> 1200K), which provides enough energy to break C-C bonds.

Thermal cracking tends to produce a higher number of alkenes compared to catalytic cracking.

In all cases of cracking, the end result is the production of short-chain alkanes and short-chain alkenes. I dont think cracking produces branched chains.

Branched chain alkenes are produced from straight chain alkanes in the process of "reforming". i.e. when hexane is heated under pressure in the presence of a catalyst, you get benzene + 4H2.
Original post by mafk80
Catalytic cracking has the advantage of requiring a lower temperature (800K) and requires a Zeolite catalyst.
Thermal cracking requires heating larger alkanes at a high temperature (> 1200K), which provides enough energy to break C-C bonds.

Thermal cracking tends to produce a higher number of alkenes compared to catalytic cracking.

In all cases of cracking, the end result is the production of short-chain alkanes and short-chain alkenes. I dont think cracking produces branched chains.

Branched chain alkenes are produced from straight chain alkanes in the process of "reforming". i.e. when hexane is heated under pressure in the presence of a catalyst, you get benzene + 4H2.


Benzene is a branched chain alkene??
This is news to me.
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Original post by TutorsChemistry
Benzene is a branched chain alkene??
This is news to me.


Youre right! Benzene is not technically a cyclic alkene. I should have clarified that in the example I gave for reforming of Hexane. I was trying to make a point that reforming produces branched hydrocarbons, whereas cracking produces short unbranched hydrocarbons. Do you agree? If you think otherwise, please let me know in case my concept is not 100% clear.

Cheers!
Original post by mafk80
Youre right! Benzene is not technically a cyclic alkene. I should have clarified that in the example I gave for reforming of Hexane. I was trying to make a point that reforming produces branched hydrocarbons, whereas cracking produces short unbranched hydrocarbons. Do you agree? If you think otherwise, please let me know in case my concept is not 100% clear.

Cheers!


I think the clarification required is "how does it answer the OP's question?"
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Original post by TutorsChemistry
I think the clarification required is "how does it answer the OP's question?"


Well, the problem in my interpretation lies in the fact that I am unable to see the link between cracking and branched-chain alkanes, which is why I was unable to directly answer the OP's question. Since you're the Chemistry Tutor perhaps you can help him by answering his question rather than fixating on the imperfections in my statements.
Original post by mafk80
Well, the problem in my interpretation lies in the fact that I am unable to see the link between cracking and branched-chain alkanes, which is why I was unable to directly answer the OP's question. Since you're the Chemistry Tutor perhaps you can help him by answering his question rather than fixating on the imperfections in my statements.


Sorry to "fixate" on the incorrect answers. I think we owe it to OP's to point out when an answer is misleading or downright wrong.

As I haven't taken the time to consider this question deeply enough to give a clear and accurate response I haven't answered the OP question.
To be clear, I have chosen not to just write something I think I know that is a bit like what the OP asked about. That's not why I am here.
But I am here to point out where things are wrong. It's not personal. Up 'til yesterday no-one reacted as if it were personal.
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Original post by TutorsChemistry
Sorry to "fixate" on the incorrect answers. I think we owe it to OP's to point out when an answer is misleading or downright wrong.

As I haven't taken the time to consider this question deeply enough to give a clear and accurate response I haven't answered the OP question.
To be clear, I have chosen not to just write something I think I know that is a bit like what the OP asked about. That's not why I am here.
But I am here to point out where things are wrong. It's not personal. Up 'til yesterday no-one reacted as if it were personal.


I might have over-reacted. I'm majorly sleep deprived and I'm under a considerable amount of stress preparing for my medical school assessment day. Apologies! Now, I better get back to understanding the biochemistry of Alkaptonuria. I hope you are able to help the OP out. Peace!
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Just to stick my oar in, but isn't the process whereby straight chains are converted into branched/cyclical ones called reforming, rather than cracking?
Original post by mafk80
I might have over-reacted. I'm majorly sleep deprived and I'm under a considerable amount of stress preparing for my medical school assessment day. Apologies! Now, I better get back to understanding the biochemistry of Alkaptonuria. I hope you are able to help the OP out. Peace!


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