Does God Exist?

Let's start with omnipotence. Omnipotence has be thought to mean the ability to do anything that is "logically possible" by many theologian. Drawing a square circles are logically impossible, hence, omnipotence does not entail the ability to draw a square circle. Who defines logic? It has been suggested by those who believe in God that logic is the arbitrary way God chose to think. In that case, could he not change the way he chose to think in order to create a square circle? Theists would say yes. Atheist might say that it is impossible to even think of a square circle to which a theist will reply "no sh!t, our thoughts can't oppose the logic that God has decided".

Obviously, this belief that God created logic and the definition of omnipotence has been disputed for a billion years (exaggeration) and is still ongoing so it is still flawed. The main point is that that square circle example proves nothing about the existence of God. I am not a believer in God, just saying.

If half the world believe that the holocaust never happened, would that make it true? Also, I was saying nothing about the empires. Yes, many empires were formed and territories annexed under the name of God. However, these empires did not believe in the same God. If there is only one God, or any God at all, then why did not all the religions have a single God? And don't tell me that stuff about "God came to Israel". There was the Akkadian empire before that.

Yes. This is true. But do you see any of these religions agreeing with each other on anything? Even the Abrahamic religions are still disagreeing.

The main point is that we can't see God, but we know he exists because of Religious texts. Some people claim to be God (we got Hitler and Buddha) but they all died. Some people were worshipped as a God (Jesus - he didn't die per the Islamic view).

The thing when looking at the grand scale of things God has been linked with humanity since times long past. Obviously I'm Muslim - i believe that Jews, Christians and Muslims essentially worship the same God. The figures are all linked to each other and idol worshipping is banned in each. Though the rules within each are different because the texts (Torah and Bible) have been changed.

The only way to prove God exists is through his texts - and that is the reason why i believe in him, because some passages in the Quran are proven by science (embryonic development) over a millennium before the scientific research found out about it.

Stop please. For Allah's sake!

Exactly my point, This whole GOD DEBATE is what you just said.
You cant disprove it or prove.
Maybe not until we experience death..

And your argument is?

I use to think that too, but according to the bible even if I believed in God, i’d still go to hell. I’m not a good enough person if the rules set for us are judgements of that.

Also I wouldn’t want to be in heaven if that’s being with god because I have BEEF with him

Every religion has the right to be correct for themselves. We can't change the mind of a lion to eat grass..

Respect what individuals belief cause in the end, its what comforts them that is most important

If you have beef with God then wouldn't that essentially align you with Satan? Who also challenged the authority of God...

We always sin, whether you or me or the Pope or the Imam. Even God knows this, so that's why he says just ask for forgiveness (since if you don't ever ask for something, you shouldn't expect to be given it) and he'll forgive. God is all forgiving, so just ask for forgiveness.

Can you not read?

I said we don't need "God". And so I couldn't care less about this "argument"

I actually disagree that his texts prove his existence, We cant even be sure that "His Texts" are even his

I actually disagree that his texts prove his existence, We cant even be sure that "His Texts" are even his

Well he didn't write them, but rather told his prophets (key examples: Jesus, Muhammad. If i recall correctly Moses actually wrote down the Torah on to some stones) to spread the knowledge he (god) gives them. So the scholars of the time are the ones that compiled the texts. Obviously there's the possibility of there being some omissions but we will never know...

If you have beef with God then wouldn't that essentially align you with Satan? Who also challenged the authority of God...

We always sin, whether you or me or the Pope or the Imam. Even God knows this, so that's why he says just ask for forgiveness (since if you don't ever ask for something, you shouldn't expect to be given it) and he'll forgive. God is all forgiving, so just ask for forgiveness.

Can you rephrase this so that ignoramuses such as myself can understand it? What do you mean by "correct for themselves"?

Are you seriously trying to insinuate that if Satan just "asked" God for forgiveness, then he would be on the side of the angels again?

But the words of the Quran are the words of God, according to muslims.

The main point is that we can't see God, but we know he exists because of Religious texts. Some people claim to be God (we got Hitler and Buddha) but they all died. Some people were worshipped as a God (Jesus - he didn't die per the Islamic view).

The thing when looking at the grand scale of things God has been linked with humanity since times long past. Obviously I'm Muslim - i believe that Jews, Christians and Muslims essentially worship the same God. The figures are all linked to each other and idol worshipping is banned in each. Though the rules within each are different because the texts (Torah and Bible) have been changed.

The only way to prove God exists is through his texts - and that is the reason why i believe in him, because some passages in the Quran are proven by science (embryonic development) over a millennium before the scientific research found out about it.