Does God Exist?

Guy u can’t sit here and tell me that all this came from nothing or chance. Look at eachother. Everyone’s body is designed perfectly to do its function. It has to have been made by a designer 100%

Being created isn’t a ‘human’ thing. I created a sanwich for lunch today. My point is, for anything to exist it must have come into existence. But if god could sort out brexit that’d be great.

There is no way to prove that something that doesn’t exist, doesn’t exist. You could tell me there’s an invisible fire breathing dragon standing in-front of me and there’s nothing I could do to prove that you are wrong, you can’t get tangible evidence that something is the figment of the imagination.

No, my parents created me and Allah doesn’t exist. That logic you used is horrendous. It’s equivalent to me saying “you exist because the all-mighty invisible rabbit created you”.



But there is no evidence he exists and plenty of scriptural evidence he doesn’t.



Bit of a silly question. Islamic scholars are Muslims so of course they’re not going to see errors because of their indoctrination, confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance. But plenty of other people have identified the plethora of errors and contradictions in the Quran.

Guy u can’t sit here and tell me that all this came from nothing or chance. Look at eachother. Everyone’s body is designed perfectly to do its function. It has to have been made by a designer 100%

Many humans have found the ability and strength to be brave and compassionate without need of religion.

So religion has given nothing that a person cannot get somewhere else.

Yes and who created their sperm and egg?

Like I keep saying, just because there is no evidence does not mean he doesnt exist. What do you classify his signs of this world as then?

The highlighted in bold, does not really explain much sir. To be honest, just because they are of the Muslim faith does not mean that they would not take the fault out of Islam.

They would do because they do not desire for their followers to be misguided. And they are not indoctrinated in their faith. Because they take all perspectives and are open-minded, regardless of the stigma that goes around of them.

I never said to 'create' is a human characteristic. I said to have a beginning is a human and animal feature as humans and animals cannot exist forever. However, many philosophers and poets, such as William Blake, believed that the human ability to create things was an example of humans being created in the image of God.

Something else had to always have eternally existed for other things to come into existence subsequently. Otherwise, you end up with a illogical argument that suggests a infinite chain of something always creating something and so on etc. God is what Aristotle calls the Prime Mover. Unmovable itself but able to move other things into existence.

That is a false analogy though, much like the watchmaker argument. A fire-breathing dragon is very different to God, a being whose concept has existed for centuries. Dragons were never believed to have been as real as God. Information about dragons were passed down through oral traditions such as folktales which everyone knew to be mere stories. Moreover, dragons have never inspired philosophical writings to the same level that the concept of God has. Therefore, this analogy doesn't work as the two things are not remotely similar.

God being a figment of the imagination is your opinion. It is not objective truth in the same way that theists believing in a God is true.

You should read what I was replying to before jumping into a discussion. I was replying to someone saying a quote that said God is an example of human weakness.

I was merely pointing out the generalisation in that statement when you consider the fact that many people have been inspired by their faith to be brave and compassionate.

I don't see what right you have to look down on people who seek comfort and strength from spirituality.

My parents! Seriously Miszy, you need to brush up on basic biology if you didn’t know that a male body creates sperm and the female body makes eggs.



If you are making claims he exists then the burden is on you to show it. In absence of that it is perfectly reasonable to not believe in a being unsupported by evidence.

Signs of this world, what are you talking about?



Of course it does. To admit there are errors in the Quran would be to admit that Islam is false and that Allah doesn’t exist. And as being Muslim is often a huge part of someone’s identity they’re very unlikely to do this. And as I said, indoctrination has already impaired their critical thinking abilities and ensured that their ability to leave the faith as unlikely.



Of course they’re indoctrinated into their faith, just as the overwhelming majority of all religionists.

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Of course they’re indoctrinated into their faith, just as the overwhelming majority of all religionists.

Planta, how can a human create bodily fluid?

If that was the case then the organs itself a human creates that too? Such as our facial features and what have you?

The sperm and the egg itself is incredible creation MashaAllah(I highly doubt that human thought of this themselves. Evolution has been going on for generations). I am aware of what a male produces and a female produces however that is not what I have written sir. Please refer back to my original post if in confusion.

No burden is on me to prove anything. " for you is my religion for you its your religion. You have been told time and again but its all up to you sir if you want to refute. Thats your choice at the end of the day. The Holy Quraan is enough proof for you if anything. yet you reject that. The Hadeeth is another proof yet you reject this too. Therefore its entirely upon you sir to prove its not true.

They are more open than what you think. If there was a fault in the Holy Quraan or Islam itself they would speak up. I guarantee you that much for certain. Having spent a lengthy period of my time in their esteemed company.

They would not keep it concealed for what benefit would that achieve?

They have to learn about their religion somewhere if that is what takes their interest of course? Thats not indoctrination.

I specifically mentioned theism as opposed to religion.

The belief that there's always a being observing/caring and willing to help you has helped countless of people with struggles and difficulties pertaining to their mental health, whether you appreciate this or not. And before you mention that there's lots of other "solutions", I should remind you that the only valid examples here are those without (obvious) adverse effects.

Take care.

Theism is religion. Calling it something else changes nothing.

Agree your point that the only valid examples are those without adverse effects.

Appreciate religion worked for you and other religious people. But you cannot ignore the areas where religion not only did not work, but actually caused harm to many people.

They don’t see the faults due to their indoctrination, that’s the point. As explained, the rest of us have identified the many faults without a problem.

I find it funny how you decide to skip the important parts in my explanation. You only answer what you can, and just ignore the rest because you're critical thinking was flawed.

You’re seeing things. I replied to all the main parts of your post. You lack a basic understanding of biology and have failed to provide any evidence for Allah’s existence.