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I was wondering if there's anyone who has taken a gap year before starting the Foundation Programme immediately after medical school? Or whether you have heard of/know anyone who has.
I'm thinking about doing this but am worried it will have a negative effect on my application.

Would really appreciate any first hand advice!
Original post by tuna.fish
I was wondering if there's anyone who has taken a gap year before starting the Foundation Programme immediately after medical school? Or whether you have heard of/know anyone who has.
I'm thinking about doing this but am worried it will have a negative effect on my application.

Would really appreciate any first hand advice!


I know two people who've done it - both used the time to do a masters degree. I don't think it caused them any issues, but personally I think the more natural and appropriate point to take some time out would be after FY2. What would you be planning to do with the time?
Reply 2
Original post by Democracy
I know two people who've done it - both used the time to do a masters degree. I don't think it caused them any issues, but personally I think the more natural and appropriate point to take some time out would be after FY2. What would you be planning to do with the time?


The thing is I am thinking of taking a year out entirely. I was in fact considering doing this after FY2, but have been reading up and asking around, and I don't think taking a year to do something unrelated will go down well just before BST. It seems it's already pretty competitive and unless that gap year is spent on placements abroad/research ext. I'm afraid it will make it even more difficult for me when it comes to applying for specialisation.

Thing is I don't know whether taking a break before FY will go down any better to be honest. Struggling to find people who would be able to guide me on this.

Really appreciate your feedback! Thanks :smile:
(edited 6 years ago)
You can start foundation training whenever you like, there's no requirement that you've to start within the same year you graduated in. Many foreign grads dont manage to find a place on the F1 program (or f2) that they want in the same year they finished school. Having said that it's probrably best to start sooner than later (if possible for you) because you might become out of practice. Other option is that you start with a locum job and ease yourself in..
You can't start with a locum job. You won't have full registration until completing the F1 year.
How would you support yourself if unemployed for a year?
Original post by tuna.fish
I was wondering if there's anyone who has taken a gap year before starting the Foundation Programme immediately after medical school? Or whether you have heard of/know anyone who has.
I'm thinking about doing this but am worried it will have a negative effect on my application.

Would really appreciate any first hand advice!


I dont know if this will really apply to you, but after my a levels, I took a Gap year. I have been working at a multinational bank, for about 9 months now.
(I’ve generally worked every holiday I have had from school, I included it to my personal statement.


I applied to University of St Andrews CIFP for Management, Economics and Finance. I got accepted. And during the interview. They were particularly interested in my work placement. If you ask me, inan addition to my ,somewhat ,high grade in business. My placements are what got me in.

Gap years don’t only help you (if your doing something “worthy” to your career) but they seriously mature you. You properly understand what is going to happen after university.

Many of the student population these days, always run after education to finish it as fast as they can. However they don’t notice that , when they are done with uni. It’s all about marketing yourself.

Graduate A- Business Degree with no experience

Graduate B- Business Degree with a years worth of experience in the finance sector.

🤷🏿*♂️


It’s all about what the employer can get from you. That’s it. Nothing else matters.

Let me hear your thoughts?
(edited 6 years ago)
Original post by tuna.fish
I was wondering if there's anyone who has taken a gap year before starting the Foundation Programme right after medical school? Or whether you have heard of/know anyone who has.
I'm thinking about doing this but am worried it will have a negative effect on my application.

Would really appreciate any first hand advice!


I dont know if this will really apply to you, but after my a levels, I took a Gap year. I have been working at a multinational bank, for about 9 months now.
(I’ve generally worked every holiday I have had from school, I included it to my personal statement.


I applied to University of St Andrews CIFP for Management, Economics and Finance. I got accepted. And during the interview. They were particularly interested in my work placement. If you ask me, inan addition to my ,somewhat ,high grade in business. My placements are what got me in.

Gap years don’t only help you (if your doing something “worthy” to your career) but they seriously mature you. You properly understand what is going to happen after university.

Many of the student population these days, always run after education to finish it as fast as they can. However they don’t notice that , when they are done with uni. It’s all about marketing yourself.

Graduate A- Business Degree with no experience

Graduate B- Business Degree with a years worth of experience in the finance sector.

🤷🏿*♂️


It’s all about what the employer can get from you. That’s it. Nothing else matters.

Let me hear your thoughts?
Original post by tuna.fish
The thing is I am thinking of taking a year out entirely. I would be doing a few conferences/workshops and maybe an article, but otherwise nothing related to medicine. I was in fact considering doing this after FY2, but have been reading up and asking around, and I don't think taking a year to do something unrelated will go down well just before BST. It seems it's already pretty competitive and unless that gap year is spend on placements abroad/research ext. I'm afraid it will make it even more difficult for me when it comes to applying for specialisation.

Thing is I don't know whether taking a break before FY will go down any better to be honest. Struggling to find people who would be able to guide me on this.

Really appreciate your feedback! Thanks :smile:


Several things to bear in mind:

1) You can only be provisionally registered for 1125 days. If you're applying for GMC registration during your final year, that clock will start ticking. If 365 of those days are spent not actually working and progressing and something unforseen happens further on down the line when you actually do start FY1, you might end up with much less time than you could have had.

2) It's my understanding that CV gaps aren't necessarily problematic (particularly earlier on in your career), but they do have to be accounted for in a way which makes sense and sounds appropriate to future interviewers and employers. Completing the foundation programme and taking an FY3 year is now pretty routine and the time out would occur at a natural break point. Delaying FY1 is a pretty unusual move and will lead to more questions than an FY3 year. Which brings me to...

3) If you're planning on taking time out (especially at an unusual point), I would ensure you have a very good reason for doing so, i.e. make sure it's for something which will enhance your career in a significant way. Aside from attending a few conferences (this is something everyone does anyway), what else are you planning to do with the rest of your time? I think this is even more important if you're planning on going into a competitive specialty.

4) There are practical considerations too e.g. where will you live, how will you earn money since you won't be able to locum, etc.
Reply 8
Original post by Smile88egc
You can't start with a locum job. You won't have full registration until completing the F1 year.
How would you support yourself if unemployed for a year?


I would be doing odds jobs just to get by. I'd just like to take some time off to do something unrelated to medicine before starting a career. I know I'll have the rest of my life for medical opportunities and experiences, and I don't think I'll get the chance to do this again if I don't do it now.
Reply 9
Original post by iantwebaze
I dont know if this will really apply to you, but after my a levels, I took a Gap year. I have been working at a multinational bank, for about 9 months now.
(I’ve generally worked every holiday I have had from school, I included it to my personal statement.


I applied to University of St Andrews CIFP for Management, Economics and Finance. I got accepted. And during the interview. They were particularly interested in my work placement. If you ask me, inan addition to my ,somewhat ,high grade in business. My placements are what got me in.

Gap years don’t only help you (if your doing something “worthy” to your career) but they seriously mature you. You properly understand what is going to happen after university.

Many of the student population these days, always run after education to finish it as fast as they can. However they don’t notice that , when they are done with uni. It’s all about marketing yourself.

Graduate A- Business Degree with no experience

Graduate B- Business Degree with a years worth of experience in the finance sector.

🤷🏿*♂️


It’s all about what the employer can get from you. That’s it. Nothing else matters.

Let me hear your thoughts?



I agree with you completely, I think taking a year out from school/uni gives you real life experience that you just can't ever get if you're just studying for exams. I'm just concerned that the selection board for the foundation programme won't see it the same way.
I will be doing some things that are related to my course, but also a lot that is not. Like you say though, as long as I can prove that I am capable of doing the job, I don't think a prospective employer would consider a gap year as a negative thing.
Reply 10
Original post by Democracy
Several things to bear in mind:

1) You can only be provisionally registered for 1125 days. If you're applying for GMC registration during your final year, that clock will start ticking. If 365 of those days are spent not actually working and progressing and something unforseen happens further on down the line when you actually do start FY1, you might end up with much less time than you could have had.

2) It's my understanding that CV gaps aren't necessarily problematic (particularly earlier on in your career), but they do have to be accounted for in a way which makes sense and sounds appropriate to future interviewers and employers. Completing the foundation programme and taking an FY3 year is now pretty routine and the time out would occur at a natural break point. Delaying FY1 is a pretty unusual move and will lead to more questions than an FY3 year. Which brings me to...

3) If you're planning on taking time out (especially at an unusual point), I would ensure you have a very good reason for doing so, i.e. make sure it's for something which will enhance your career in a significant way. Aside from attending a few conferences (this is something everyone does anyway), what else are you planning to do with the rest of your time? I think this is even more important if you're planning on going into a competitive specialty.

4) There are practical considerations too e.g. where will you live, how will you earn money since you won't be able to locum, etc.



Yeah I'm aware of the time limit, and believe there is also a clinical assessment which you need to sit for if you've qualified more than two years before applying. But as long as I stick to that time frame and make sure I'm available to sit for all relevant exams, I don't mind 'falling behind' so to speak.

The unusual time to be taking a gap year is what I'm most concerned about, and the questions that will come with it. Like you said I will have to show that I used this time well. What I plan on doing which would be CV related is mostly voluntary work and a research placement if I get one.

In the meantime I would be doing odd jobs in exchange for some cash or accommodation as I move around. If I could find work related to medicine or health care all the better of course, but I would have no guarantee of this opportunity.
Original post by tuna.fish
Yeah I'm aware of the time limit, and believe there is also a clinical assessment which you need to sit for if you've qualified more than two years before applying. But as long as I stick to that time frame and make sure I'm available to sit for all relevant exams, I don't mind 'falling behind' so to speak.

The unusual time to be taking a gap year is what I'm most concerned about, and the questions that will come with it. Like you said I will have to show that I used this time well. What I plan on doing which would be CV related is mostly voluntary work and a research placement if I get one.

In the meantime I would be doing odd jobs in exchange for some cash or accommodation as I move around. If I could find work related to medicine or health care all the better of course, but I would have no guarantee of this opportunity.


What kind of voluntary work?

And what do you mean by odd jobs?

Also, what's your motivation behind wishing to delay starting work as a doctor?
Reply 12
Original post by Democracy
What kind of voluntary work?

And what do you mean by odd jobs?

Also, what's your motivation behind wishing to delay starting work as a doctor?


Voluntary work would depend on what is available where I am, but revolving around health care projects in poorer areas, public health programmes, sexual health, education ext.

Odds jobs could be anything.. Work in a hostel, on a farm, walking dogs, au pairing for kids or the elderly.

This is just something that I have wanted to do for a long time, and I know that this is the only time I will get the opportunity. I am looking forward to starting work as a doctor, I've known that it is what I want to do for a long time, but I don't see why I have to rush from one step to the next. I am 22 years old and will have plenty of time to work on my career, one or two years out of the race are not going to have any massive effect on working life as far as I'm concerned.

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