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QMUL vs Nottingham vs Leeds - Law

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@J-SP
Okay, so hypothetically speaking,
Situation 1 - I get a 2:2 with a letter from Notts saying consider the difference in difficulty vs Getting a 2:1 from Leeds - what are my chances of getting a TC being an international student.

Situation 2- I get a 2:1 from Notts with that letter vs a 2:1 from any other RG like Durham, Bristol, etc.? Now what would my chances be?
Hello, I am also an international student with similar struggles.

I have received offers from:
QMUL, Birmingham, Manchester, and Newcastle. (awaiting Warwick's reply)

How would British rank on employability (in the UK) and reputation of the universities if I would like to practice law? (as I am not sure which one should I firm or insurance)

Thank you!
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Original post by J-SP
There will be employability stats available if you look in the right places. But those are just high level stats - the number of people residing in the UK deemed to be in graduate level employment. It doesn’t say anything about what that work is and the definition of what is graduate level is highly questionable (both too higha a benchmark in some instances and too low in others).

Generally speaking, the four are all comparable.

Some may argue that Newcastle is slightly lower than the other three, but if you wanted to stay in the North East to work, then Newcastle would be easier in terms of employability than QMUL or Birmingham. All three universities are targeted by law firms. If you are interested in legal careers, then go and look at the following:

1) How many firms/Chambers sponsor their law society and the type of firms that sponsor them - only takes a view of their website or Facebook page to get an indication

2) which firms/Chambers attended their law fair

This will give you an indication of how “targeted” then university is, although that doesn’t give you any indication of your own employability chances.


Thank you for the great tip.

How about the reputation of their respective faculty? In my place, it seems that Manchester and Birmingham are more prestigious. What would be the situation in the UK?

And how should I interpret the fluctuating ranking of QMUL in different league tables? I understand that QMUL is a wonderful school, it gave me a higher offer too. It just confuses me when I saw it to be the 3rd law school right under Oxbridge in Guardian.
Original post by J-SP
From a London city law firm’s perspective, I think the four are comparable (as already stated), maybe Newcastle is edged out slightly but the other three I really wouldn’t be able to say which was more “prestigious” - I personally think they are about the same. Newcastle is probably only edged out as there are fewer Newcastle applicants applying to city law firms compared to Manchester, Birmingham and QM.

Most firms don’t really care about presitige on the granular level you (and others expect).

QM’s law faculty is probably one of its most reputable. Other departments are not so strong. QM will vary depending on the weighting the metrics the rankings use. It’s strength comes in research in particular areas like international arbitration.

If the reputation of the university in your home country is important, then of course factor that in. But in the UK there isn’t really a difference between a law faculty rated 15th and the next as 31st (difference between QM and Manchester in the good university guide for LLBs).


QM seems appealing to me in this case, once again thank you for the information.

I am struggling between Birmingham and Manchester, as for which one to insurance. I like Birm's warm campus a lot, but my parents prefer Manchester (more famous in our place). Any help? Unfortunately, it is not possible for me to visit the school before making the decision.
Original post by J-SP


QM’s law faculty is probably one of its most reputable. Other departments are not so strong. QM will vary depending on the weighting the metrics the rankings use. It’s strength comes in research in particular areas like international arbitration.


International arbitration, as a specialism, is more relevant at postgrad. They have an actual LLM in Int'l Arb. I mean, this pretty common sensical because it is an advanced topic

At undergrad, arbitration is not offered. My second-year commercial module included some arbitration, but QMUL's Commercial and Consumer Law doesn't even include a mention. Not mentioned in International Commercial Transactions. I think the only way for a QMUL undergrad to do international arbitration would be to undertake a dissertation on it, but that would be quite pointless without advanced understanding of other commercial topics.

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