Swimwear ad with too many White people described as 'lacking diversity'

Don't you mean, 'get rid of Whites'.

Diversity is White Genocide

I'm not even going to bother explaining this. Get rid of your victim complex.

2. Whites are the only ethnic group that aren’t allowed to have their own clubs or groups (the same would also apply to men)

Why do you think that is? Same reason why in mario kart you don’t get blue shells or lightning bolts when you’re already in first place...

This is the ridiculous thing that seems to happen. You get people who are constantly talking about how ethnic minorities and women are victimised. As soon as someone else makes a reasonable observation about white people or men being treated unfairly they’re told to get rid of their victim complex.

In this instance what he’s saying is correct:
1. An advertising campaign with just white people is slammed for lacking diversity whereas a campaign containing all (insert ethnic minority here) people would be celebrated for diversity.
2. Whites are the only ethnic group that aren’t allowed to have their own clubs or groups (the same would also apply to men). While I’m sure you’ll have some reason as to why that is (that will no doubt bring up victimhood) if you want equality among gender/race then start holding everyone to the same level. I would also add that, with the exception of a relatively small number, whites seem to be the only race that don’t really want their own university societies etc. It seems like most of the people advocating it are doing so simply in response to the fact that ethnic minorities have that privilege.

In response to your first point, this wouldn’t be celebrated for diversity. It would be celebrated though, which you’re probably annoyed about, but not for diversity, for simply representation of minorities.

You forget that 50 or so years ago black people would get poured acid on them for even going into a swimming pool and the pool in some instances would be drained.

It would also be unacceptable to see a black model. Even now, many campaigns and brands choose models with Eurocentric features -

meaning representation of black people and other ethnic minorities is still not to the standard it should be.

Your second point? I find it extremely ridiculous how you think having groups like BLM, NAACP etc is a ‘privilege’. These groups came around in the first instance due to inequality between the races and aim to solve this problem. Whites shouldn’t NEED these groups. The groups aren’t in order to segregate whites, they’re to improve equality between races and to address the problem of racism. What would be the point in making an activism group for white people when their rights don’t need to be improved anyway?

In this instance I would bring in @Anna1029 ‘s Mario Kart analogy as it fits perfectly. The only reason someone would make one of these groups is if they felt wronged by ethnic minorities becoming their equals, which is blatant racism. “Start holding everyone to the same level”? That’s the whole POINT of these groups... the reason why black people and other minorities even feel the need to make them is that it’s the whites who aren’t holding everyone to the same level, and it has been for several centuries.

Why would you assume I would be annoyed?



What a shock, you've brought up an incident from over half a century ago in a foreign country to argue that racism is still prevalent today. What happened fifty years ago in the US is not relevant to black people being used in adverts in the UK today.



I'm not sure if you've noticed but that's because we live in Europe. If you go to Africa you'll see different people in advertisements, if you go to South East Asia you'll see yet more different people.



By what metric? To use an example, black people should make up around 3% of the people you see in a given class, that would be proportionate representation



1. BLM...lol
2. You mentioned those groups, not me. I was referring to groups such as BMEC societies at universities.
3. If white people can't join the NAACP or BLM then it shows the idiocy of those running the groups.



See because you've decided to add your own spin to what I said you've veered off on a tangent. If there can be a BMEC society why can't there be a white society? That would be treating people equally.

2. Whites are the only ethnic group that aren’t allowed to have their own clubs or groups (the same would also apply to men). While I’m sure you’ll have some reason as to why that is (that will no doubt bring up victimhood) if you want equality among gender/race then start holding everyone to the same level. I would also add that, with the exception of a relatively small number, whites seem to be the only race that don’t really want their own university societies etc. It seems like most of the people advocating it are doing so simply in response to the fact that ethnic minorities have that privilege.

I assumed you were annoyed as you seemed to think what I said was wrong. Maybe it wasn't the most appropriate choice of words but if you were totally fine about it why would you be arguing with me right now?

Those examples still apply in exactly the same way. Racism is still prevalent in the UK, just talk to a random old person on the street and it's about 50% likely that they're basically racist.

Just look up any instances of racism in the UK. After about 5 seconds and on the first website I found this statistic: 'recent reports document that since last year's vote to leave the European Union, racial and religious hate crimes have risen by 23%'

An example of police brutality centred around race similar to the instances seen in the US is the case of Mark Duggan. There are also so many instances in the USA but I'm guessing you'll say that's irrelevant.

Due to this representation problem you'll actually see that the Eurocentric style beauty and features are chosen over features pertaining to Asians and black people.

Loads of Asians opt for double eyelid surgery and likewise loads of South East and Central Asians believe white skin is prettier and use whitening cream due to the fact that they have seen white people and paler Asians all over the media.

What you call 'proportional representation' is nonsense. The problem is that even that would be considered better than what is prevalent in modelling right now - it's far from proportional.

Plus, there are 14% racial minority in the UK right now. The point is that it shouldn't be proportional representation, it should be equal representation.

The reason why there are less black models isn't because there are less black people, it's because companies favour Eurocentric features. I myself am white, and growing up, I never had a problem with seeing myself in the media - basically all models and all main characters in films and TV shows were white. I personally know that many people who are from a racial minority had problems when they were younger as they felt that since there were so many white models etc, this makes you feel like your features aren't pretty. Just look at the testimonies of young black children after the recent release of Black Panther; personally I found it shocking to see how being hardly represented in the media affects your self esteem and your character.

Re your statement about the BMEC, have a look at this. Copied straight from BMEC website: 'The Black and Minority Ethnic Campaign (BMEC) exists to voice the concerns, address the issues, cater to the needs of, and improve the educational and social environment for Ethnic Minority Students [in Cambridge] at both undergraduate and graduate level.'
Why would you want to do any of this for white people when they're already the majority - as far as I'm concerned there aren't many (or any) problems of this sort for whites.

It's not a selective group or something in which only ethnic minorities can socialise, and I don't see a reason why you should feel left out from this other than the fact that you disagree/are against what they do and equality between races in general.

In the same way I don't understand why this is a privilege, it applies in exactly the same way as BLM/NAACP. Why would BMEC be needed anyway if there wasn't inequality in the first place? Why do you need to improve the rights of whites if they're on top anyway?Why would you want to join BLM/NAACP anyway?

I believe that NAACP accepts white membership anyway, but I don't see why white people should want to join anyway, as it should be black people who make these decisions and advancements themselves. Plus whites can support these movements in other ways. I don't get why you're annoyed about whites not being allowed to join when you don't seem to want to join anyway.

In Wales, there are entire government departments and vast resources dedicated solely to Welsh language matters, but no equivalent ones for English. Do you think that indicates that Welsh-speakers have a massive advantage over English-speakers?

Of course not. It indicates quite the opposite - that English-speakers have such a huge inbuilt advantage that Welsh-speakers need a significant leg up to even remotely compete on the same terms.

Similarly, there are designated gay bars and clubs, but no equivalent straight ones, because the latter are unnecessary. Straight people looking to meet and get off with someone can go to any non-specific venue and assume that the vast majority of the people there will also be straight. If you're gay, you can't make an equivalent assumption unless you know the venue caters to a primarily gay crowd. That specifically gay venues exist is indicative of the advantages of straight people, not gay people.

Swimwear brand Solid and Striped under attack for publishing an ad featuring 12 White models and one Black.

See 'Solid and Striped's Swimwear Ad goes Viral for Lack of Diversity


As usual, the word diversity is being used with reference to White people.

Anyone non-white is 'diverse.'

Anyone White is 'not diverse.'

A lack of diversity simply means 'too many White people.'

Does the Black Police Association 'lack diversity?'

Does Black History Month 'lack diversity?'

White groups of people and ONLY White groups of people need more diversity.

Diversity means chasing down Whites

But quoting what you said just in case you change your mind later.

Man. Diversity doesn't mean too many whites bro, it means not enough coloured people lol. Even I know this. And they call me a neo Nazi Ha. Night.

Whites are the only ethnic group that aren’t allowed to have their own clubs or groups