Lack of migrant workers left food rotting in UK fields last year, data reveals

While I don’t know the specifics, people always seem more than willing to pay a premium for good locally sourced food over imported cheap stuff in my experience.

Exclusive: Brexit fears and falling pound left fruit and vegetable farms short of more than 4,000 workers, with senior MPs warning of a ‘crisis’

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/feb/09/lack-of-migrant-workers-left-food-rotting-in-uk-fields-last-year-data-reveals



Come on Leave voters. This is what you have been waiting for. Time to get up and take these jobs. British jobs for british people.

Where are all the fat middle aged gammons volenteering to do these jobs?

I shant be doing these jobs as I don;t want to be getting up at 4am to pic fruit for some farmer. But then again, I didn't vote Leave and I am not against immigration. I don't see why it is up to me to fill the gap made by blokes who think they fought in the war

I propose a third solution. Lets automate these processes. Come on farmers. It seems you can no longer rely on exploiting eastern europeans to make your profit. Lets see some of this capitalist inovation I hear so much about.

Except that the margins in agriculture are squeezed so much by the supermarkets that they can't. Even if the supermarkets increased what they paid that cost would be passed on to the consumer, who'd then buy the product produced more cheaply overseas. Generally, people are more than happy with the idea of workers being paid more but baulk at the idea of actually paying more themselves.

The opposite is happening. The weak bargaining power of labour is allowing capitalists to get away without having to innova the means of production. Instead of making more productive machines they are just fidning novel ways of paying poeple less.

This isn't exactly capitalism doing what it cheer leaders say it does.

and you had the CHEEK to LIE that you werent a remain voter.

Now, it's not up to any citizen what job they get. It's up to the employers who gets the job. If the employers would rather pay a migrant 3 euros worth of wages here, then they will, and won't employ citizens in dire need of work.

When have I ever said I wansn't a remain voter?

They wont pay that much if they go to jail.

Remain voters always seek to frame this issue as if wage rates are irrelevant.

There was a piece on the beeb a while ago where they were sympathetically interviewing farmers whose businesses were suffering because lower immigration meant they were having to pay more for agricultural work. This was presented uniformly negatively. The notion raising wages might be the whole bloody point of Brexit for a lot of people was not considered.

now you're denying you lied lmao priceless. there's no need to be cowardly on here and deny what you said, it's not like I'll fight you all the way over here...

The thread was about right wingers being more attractive. I'll easily find the quote where I assumed rightfully so that you were a remainer. You insisted you weren't one. For no reason, whether you were being sarcastic or actually lying or not. Just ridiculous.

Anyway. Ok? They're not going to go to jail with lily livered and hypocritical enablers and cosigners like most remainers keep effortlessly proving themselves to be.

I may have said (although I can't remember unless you show me) I'm not a Remainer with a capital R. I voted remain as the least bad option and I have left wing anti EU sympathies. I'm certainly not one of these liberal Remainers who think things were fine before we left the EU and have now all of a sudden found some political conviction beyond tediouse technocratic third way electioneering in devoting all their energy to making sure we don't leave the EU.

I've never said I voted leave though.

Exclusive: Brexit fears and falling pound left fruit and vegetable farms short of more than 4,000 workers, with senior MPs warning of a ‘crisis’



Come on Leave voters. This is what you have been waiting for. Time to get up and take these jobs. British jobs for british people.

Where are all the fat middle aged gammons volenteering to do these jobs?

I shant be doing these jobs as I don;t want to be getting up at 4am to pic fruit for some farmer. But then again, I didn't vote Leave and I am not against immigration. I don't see why it is up to me to fill the gap made by blokes who think they fought in the war

I propose a third solution. Lets automate these processes. Come on farmers. It seems you can no longer rely on exploiting eastern europeans to make your profit. Lets see some of this capitalist inovation I hear so much about.

A 'working holiday' program would work well for fruit picking, which is what New Zealand is using. This means that foreigners would be able to come to the UK temporarily i.e. for a few months, and work while they're here to bring some money back home when they leave. This works well as fruit picking is needed seasonally.

Of course, you wouldn't this this idea though, seeing as you want the white population to be replaced.